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Reason · 07-17-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealityOfMan

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Originally Posted by Reason

You simply cannot give a straight answer to anything, can you.

1. Cough up the scripture that "commissions" you to "defend" gawd.
2. Cough up anywhere that I have "proclaimed endless wisdom" etc.

You can't.

Anyone can do 1.

a) Pick scripture
b) Claim interpretation

Which is precisely what I expect: some convoluted, nonsensical "interpretation" of someting that has nothing to do with a "commission" to "defend" gawd. In other words, SOP for fundies<edit>.

Reason · 07-17-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowTrainComing

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Originally Posted by Reason

You simply cannot give a straight answer to anything, can you.

1. Cough up the scripture that "commissions" you to "defend" gawd.
2. Cough up anywhere that I have "proclaimed endless wisdom" etc.

You can't.

I'll take that as a "no, I don't wish to give up on my claims that I know the Bible better than most Believers. what I see as a bargaining chip. I will continue in these claims despite, yet again, whiffing horribly on a principle tenet of Christianity." I bet you wish you had thought of this dodge last week.

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Originally Posted by Mark 16:14-17, English Standard Version

14Afterward he appeared to the eleven themselves as they were reclining at table, and he rebuked them for their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they had not believed those who saw him after he had risen. 15And he said to them, "Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. 16Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover."

Exactly what I expected--total bullshit that has nothing to do with a "commission" to "defend gawd."

Fail.

Next!

SlowTrainComing · 07-17-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Reason

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Originally Posted by TheRealityOfMan

Anyone can do 1.

a) Pick scripture
b) Claim interpretation

Which is precisely what I expect: some convoluted, nonsensical "interpretation" of someting that has nothing to do with a "commission" to "defend" gawd. In other words, SOP for fundies. <edit>

Haaaaaaaard talk from the Self-Proclaimed First Stop For All Of Your Biblical Needs who made a dare, but refused to stake his homemade Biblical Championship Belt on it.

It's hard to misinterpret "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in [or into] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you."

Reason · 07-17-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowTrainComing

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Originally Posted by Reason

Which is precisely what I expect: some convoluted, nonsensical "interpretation" of someting that has nothing to do with a "commission" to "defend" gawd. In other words, SOP for fundies. <edit>

Haaaaaaaard talk from the Self-Proclaimed First Stop For All Of Your Biblical Needs who made a dare, but refused to stake his homemade Biblical Championship Belt on it.

It's hard to misinterpret "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in [or into] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you."

Since you are clearly a superior babble scholar, please point out to the dull-witted like me where, precisely, in that passage is a "commission" to "defend gawd." :huh:

Making disciples is not "defending" gawd. :banghead:

You are so desperate to defend your indefensible assertions that you will resort to damn near anything.

question_it_all · 07-17-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowTrainComing

The analogy doesn't work.
In your situation, there's no external force that guarantees the desired response, to walk.
In the other, an external force (God) guarantees the desired response, to reach and communicate with God.

Wrong. Plainly, simply, completely wrong. There is no force outside of your imagination. There is no guarantee outside of your delusions. There is no need to take you seriously.

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de·lu·sion Audio Help /dɪˈluʒən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[di-loo-zhuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. an act or instance of deluding.
2. the state of being deluded.
3. a false belief or opinion: delusions of grandeur.
4. Psychiatry. a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact: a paranoid delusion.

STC you are quite simply deluded. You have no arguments for your position other than your personal commune with the Holy Spirit (auditory delusions) and in light of any other line of reasoning you maintain a

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fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact: a paranoid delusion.

I for one find it sad that there are people in this world so blindly devoted to a delusion for which they are completely unable to explain outside of "I hear voices"

Reason · 07-17-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowTrainComing

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Originally Posted by Reason

You simply cannot give a straight answer to anything, can you.

1. Cough up the scripture that "commissions" you to "defend" gawd.
2. Cough up anywhere that I have "proclaimed endless wisdom" etc.

You can't.

I'll take that as a "no, I don't wish to give up on my claims that I know the Bible better than most Believers. what I see as a bargaining chip. I will continue in these claims despite, yet again, whiffing horribly on a principle tenet of Christianity." I bet you wish you had thought of this dodge last week.

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Originally Posted by Mark 16:14-17, English Standard Version

14Afterward he appeared to the eleven themselves as they were reclining at table, and he rebuked them for their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they had not believed those who saw him after he had risen. 15And he said to them, "Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. 16Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover."

Tell me something, STC, what else does gawd "commission" you to do besides "defend" him (which seems to mostly consist of posting meaningless ramblings on internet discussion boards)?

Do you feed the hungry?

Clothe the poor?

Minister to the sick, orphans, and widows?

Or is this "commission" strictly lip service and "witnessing"?

SlowTrainComing · 07-17-2008, 05:18 PM

Why are you asking? don't you claim to know the Bible?

Deus Ex · 07-17-2008, 05:22 PM

STC

Do you have the abilities described in Mark 16:17-18?

And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.

Reason · 07-17-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowTrainComing

Why are you asking? don't you claim to know the Bible?

I am asking you. I know precisely what the babble says. I want to know if your "commission" includes any of the things I asked about.

SlowTrainComing · 07-17-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Reason

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Originally Posted by SlowTrainComing

Why are you asking? don't you claim to know the Bible?

I am asking you. I know precisely what the babble says. I want to know if your "commission" includes any of the things I asked about.

Dude.

I posted two verses.

Read them.

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Deus Ex Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,348	STC Do you have the abilities described in Mark 16:17-18? And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.

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