Carin Nel

Mod note, this thread has been split from PA&SA's "ACTIVISTS UNITE!!! War on Easter begins!!"


This war has been going on from the beginning of the existence of mankind and will be going on untill Satan and His followers will be cast into the lake of fire. This is not a new war, like the Bible says..there is nothing new under the sun! Some of us just know what the outcome will be....but some just don't want to believe it!

Krztoff

A) Why is the bible credible? (don't answer in PA&SA)

B) It's a war between christianity and the Rational Response Squad. I don't know any "Satan" that you speak of. Can't remember ever being contacted by him about anything.

C) Maybe this is just me, but I don't think that PA&SA is the place for your off-topic divine threat.

D) Yes, some of us DO know what the outcome will be. Your little book will turn out to be wrong!

On topic- the DVDs that will be given out for the Easter activities, will they have the traditional DVD style case?

Alan the Atheist

As far as I can remember, the threat of torture was banned by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and for good reason. You are sick.

Carin Nel

Who are they? Did they read Rev. 19:20 and 20:10-15 and 21:8 and decided to sue God ? Why do you say I'm sick ? Do you know me and do you understand what these scriptures mean? Do you take this personal? Do you think I'm trying to be funny? Have you ever studied the Scriptures to see whether they could be true or not? I don't take pleasure in quoting these scriptures-I'm not sadistic.This is very serious for me and I would not wish this ending for my worst enemy. Nobody has to end up there and everybody has a choice and a fair and reasonable chance to avoid this. Nobody would one day be able to say on his/her death bed that he/she did not get an opportunity to reconcile with God. God is too fair to let that happen. It doesn't cost anything and it's a matter of believing and surrendering one's life to the Lordship of Jesus Christ. This is what I believe.

Alan the Atheist

The universal declaration of human rights is not a group of people, it is a document outlining human rights that most countries have signed.

Because you threaten people with torture for not following a sadistic 'God'.

Relax, hell doesn't exist. Luckly, your at the right place and you'll hopefully find that out soon enough.

post tenebras lux

Please Alan, can you give me a figure for this 'universal deceleration'? Are all human rights decelerating at the same rate, or are some human rights decelerating faster than others?

Etc. :Cheeky:

Alethias

Well, I think it's reasonable to assume from your post that you believe it, right?

But then we run into a problem. What is the point of you telling us this? You give me no reason to believe it. "The Bible says", doesn't cut it. It obviously crontradicts reality and itself.

"some just don't want to believe it!" describes me in the same way that I don't want to believe J.R.R. Tolkein in his "Lord of the Rings" trilogy. IT'S NOT REAL.

Mod Note here: This thread is not far away from going ~~Elsewhere~~ as preaching with no intent to engage in civil discussion. I highly recommend that you read the rules of GRD, that are stickied at the top of the forum, Carin Nel

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Jehanne

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/

My favorite entry is the Acts of Peter, which has a tale of a talking dog!

XI. And as Peter spake thus and embraced Mareellus, Peter turned himself unto the multitude that stood by him and saw there one that laughed (smiled), in whom was a very evil spirit. And Peter said unto him: Whosoever thou art that didst laugh, show thyself openly unto all that are present. And hearing this the young man ran into the court of the house and cried out with a loud voice and dashed himself against the wall and said: Peter, there is a great contention between Simon and the dog whom thou sentest; for Simon saith to the dog: Say that I am not here. Unto whom the dog saith more than thou didst charge him; and when he hath accomplished the mystery which thou didst command him, he shall die at thy feet. But Peter said: And thou also, devil, whosoever thou art, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, go out of that young man and hurt him not at all: show thyself unto all that stand here. When the young man heard it, he ran forth and caught hold on a great statue of marble which was set in the court of the house, and brake it in pieces with his feet. Now it was a statue of Caesar. Which Marcellus beholding smote his forehead and said unto Peter: A great crime hath been committed; for if this be made known unto Caesar by some busybody, he will afflict us with sore punishments. And Peter said to him: I see thee not the same that thou wast a little while ago, for thou saidst that thou wast ready to spend all thy substance to save thy soul. But if thou indeed repentest, believing in Christ with thy whole heart, take in thine hands of the water that runneth down, and pray to the Lord, and in his name sprinkle it upon the broken pieces of the statue and it shall be whole as it was before. And Marcellus, nothing doubting, but believing with his whole heart, before he took the water lifted up his hands and said: I believe in thee, O Lord Jesu Christ: for I am now proved by thine apostle Peter, whether I believe aright in thine holy name. Therefore I take water in mine hands, and in thy name do I sprinkle these stones that the statue may become whole as it was before. If, therefore, Lord, it be thy will that I continue in the body and suffer nothing at Caesar's hand, let this stone be whole as it was before. And he sprinkled the water upon the stones, and the statue became whole, whereat Peter exulted that Marcellus had not doubted in asking of the Lord, and Marcellus was exalted in spirit for that such a sign was first wrought by his hands; and he therefore believed with his whole heart in the name of Jesus Christ the Son of God, by whom all things impossible are made possible.

XII. But Simon within the house said thus to the dog: Tell Peter that I am not within. Whom the dog answered in the presence of Marcellus: Thou exceeding wicked and shameless one, enemy of all that live and believe on Christ Jesus, here is a dumb animal sent unto thee which hath received a human voice to confound thee and show thee to be a deceiver and a liar. Hast thou taken thought so long, to say at last: 'Tell him that I am not within?' Art thou not ashamed to utter thy feeble and useless words against Peter the minister and apostle of Christ, as if thou couldst hide thee from him that hath commanded me to speak against thee to thy face: and that not for thy sake but for theirs whom thou wast deceiving and sending unto destruction? Cursed therefore shalt thou be, thou enemy and corrupter of the way of the truth of Christ, who shall prove by fire that dieth not and in outer darkness, thine iniquities that thou hast committed. And having thus said, the dog went forth and the people followed him, leaving Simon alone. And the dog came unto Peter as he sat with the multitude that was come to see Peter's face, and the dog related what he had done unto Simon. And thus spake the dog unto the angel and apostle of the true God: Peter, thou wilt have a great contest with the enemy of Christ and his servants, and many that have been deceived by him shalt thou turn unto the faith; wherefore thou shalt receive from God the reward of thy work. And when the dog had said this he fell down at the apostle Peter's feet and gave up the ghost. And when the great multitude saw with amazement the dog speaking, they began then, some to throw themselves down at Peter's feet, and some said: Show us another sign, that we may believe in thee as the minister of the living God, for Simon also did many signs in our presence and therefore did we follow him.

maxxmann

The bible says, "you were bought for a price..." Reconciliation with god is not free and the sacrifice one makes when they surrender to the lordship of jesus is not cheap either, unless you keep his lordship as a matter of belief.

ELECTROGOD