arnoldo

Sarcasm, how refreshing

Sheshonq

Which is irrelevant because your original claim was about Anakim. Stay on topic.

Another home-made, nutjob website? I thought I warned you about that.

arnoldo

So your claim is that Egyptian Execration Text does not reference the Anakim, correct? FYI, the Anakim was a pre-Canannite tribe according to the following source:

juergen

Assuming the Nephilim existed before a flood (which is also assumed), and after the flood, which one of Noah's daughters in law would have been a giant? Why would God tolerate the survival of a species which he appointed to die in the flood because of their wickedness to begin with?

Sheshonq

My only claim is that you haven't proven your claim that the Egyptian Text *does* reference them. Citing a tabloid website isn't a source.

And your new source clearly seems to think these were legendary, not historical:

According to rabbinical tradition (Gen. R. xxvi.), the Anakim are of the same Titanic race as the Rephaim, Nefilim, Gibborim, Zamzummim, and Emim. The name (as though containing the element 'anak = neck) is explained in the Midrash (Gen. R. xxvi.) as indicating that they wore "neck-chains heaped upon neck-chains," or, as if from the verb "to press," "force," that they seized the solar disk and cried, "Send us rain," or that "they squeezed their heads into the sun" (Soṭah, 34b; see Rashi on Yoma, 10a). Of the three sons of Anak who filled the spies with awe and fear by their gigantic stature, Ahiman, Sheshai, and Talmai (Num. xii. 22-33), the first is represented in Num. R. xvi. and Tan., Shelaḥ, 7, ed. Buber, 11, as challenging passers-by, saying: "Whose brother will fight with me?" (a play upon "Ahiman" = brother of whom); the second stood there stolid as a block of marble (a play upon shesh = marble), and the third made deep furrows (a play upon telamim = furrows) in the soil with every step. (Compare Soṭah, 34b; Yoma, 10a, which has a somewhat different and possibly corrupt version; see Buber, notes to Tan. l.c.) And when the spies saw these men towering up to the sky and looking as if piercing the sun, they were afraid and said: "We are not able to go up against these people, for they are stronger than He []; that is, stronger than even the Lord Himself!" (Num. xiii. 31).

Here is what your source also says:

—Critical View:

The origin of the Anakim is unknown, and they have left no trace in history. On possible (but uncertain) remains of them, compare Nowack, "Hebr. Arch." § 16. The name "Anak" (so the Greek), or "the Anak" (Hebrew), is an etymological puzzle. The meaning of "bene ha-Anak" is uncertain. It is interpreted by some as "the long-necked"; by others, as "the necklace-wearers." It is perhaps non-Semitic.

Sheshbazzar

Even if the Egyptian Excration Text was referring to these same "Anakim", that would only evidence that a people known by that name had likely once existed,
it would not however be of any evidence that they were physical "giants", An unwarranted and unsupportable conclusion to draw from a mere mention of a tribal name.

sugarhitman

Think about it after the Nephilim were killed in the flood and Noah's descendants began to multiply on earth this unnatural relations with angels and women could have begun again, but instead of flooding the world again (which God had already promised he wouldn't do again) God used the Adamic races to war against these beings to displaced them thanks in part to the scattering of the languages that lead to different cultures, different beliefs and ultimately war. Wars between nations did not begin until the division of the nations which God used against the second attempt of the Nephilim.

Exciter

Sheshbazzar

Hogwar...! 'er Hogwash! fer sure!

Sheshbazzar

WOW! who would have ever figured it????