Duvduv

Do you mind addressing the substance of the question, Chili if you are going to reply? I am asking why the AUTHOR of the gospel story confused known Hebrew names with others that are clearly distorted. For example, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that something went wrong somewhere to turn YEHUDA into JODA. One would have to assume that Joda would have been used for the biblical personage of Judah in Greek. Whereas Josech was Yehotzedek which got garbled, and yet the author couldn't double check, just like he got names such as Joseph, Nachum, Jacob and Amos correct.

We still have to examine the intentions of the gospel writers - or more importantly redactors - in using the name Mary (and Joseph) which evoke the Jewish stories concerning ben Pandera/ben Stada when they could have just as easily chosen names that did not do that, UNLESS the writers HAD an intention unknown to the Byzantine regime registering an insult to the person of Yesoos which required authors such as Origen to defend.

Chili

I see, and yes, you obviously have something there. But I am not a theologian to answer that. It is however my view that the four Gospels make an intricate quilt of one story wherein a new religion will be formed that is based on the same Genesis now as the answer or fulilment of the OT.

While this is true, it does not end Judah for them, as they need Judas Iscariot too, as the traitor, in their life when they get there. To this end we just use the anti-christ who became our enemy and friend as lost brethren when heaven was brought down to earth (my point that 'hell came crashing down' when that happened).

So it is not so that Judaism comes to an end, but remains as it always was, except for Catholics who do not owe allegiance to them as a religion all on its own, except for Gen. 1 to 3, wheren we come full circle when we reach the end of Revelations, and there than arrive and know the place as if for the first time.

In essense, our life is the same except your prophesy is reduced to intimation via the communion we have with the saints administered to us through the water baptism that we receive, that so becomes our 'life line' with the queen of heaven and earth to take us home from the complicated labyrinth that we weave on our own while outside of Eden.

Not sure if you are Jewish or not, but freely use 'you' as Jew for asking the question.

So I am not in a position to elaborate further than that.

Chili

NO! Joseph was a devout Jew and is why Mary was from Nazareth to show just that.

The only difference is that his lineage does not end at the God of David or Abraham or whoever, but goes past all of those past Adam to God in evidence that he is the Son.