aa5874

Your statement makes very very little sense. The Pauline writings were supposedly known in the Churches as soon as they were DELIVERED and READ and his teachings from the very Epistles should have been known especially when he arrived in person.

Do you not understand that Paul supposedly wrote letters to Churches in Rome and other Major Cities, not little villages, but to the churches in MAJOR CITIES of the Roman Empire?

So as soon as the Pauline letters supposedly were DELIVERED and READ ALL the churches of Rome, Corinth, Thessalonica, Ephesus, Colosse, Philippi and Galatia would have KNOWN of Paul.

And further, it is claimed Paul NOT only wrote letters to churches in Major Cities he also Traveled and Preached about Jesus in the SAME CITIES for OVER 17 years.

The author of Acts even claimed he TRAVELED with Paul all over the Roman Empire and named many many places that both he and the Pauline group visited.

Paul according to the Author of Acts did a " tour of the Roman Empire" at least TWICE.

Acts 15:36 KJV There is No story anywhere in the NT Canon or apologetic sources that the Pauline epistles were NOT well known.

Paul seemed like a marketing genius he supposedly FLOODED the "Market" with the " Pauline revealed teachings of the resurrected Jesus".

Paul supposedly sent out MAILS to churches in Major Cities and then suposedly Followed up by Personal visits..

However, the authors of Gospels some how managed NOT to have seen a Pauline letter, Not to have heard of a Pauline letter, NOT to have attended a Pauline church.

The Existing evidence cannot support your claim. You have ZERO idea how the author of gMark managed to write his Jesus story.

outhouse

actually all the evidence points to my claim, you dont like it because it throws a monkey wrench in your mythical view.


False

Like paul they picked up on oral tradition from the movement. The jewish governement was in a bad state before the fall of the temple.

when the temple fell judaism was being slowly rebuilt by the pharisees, while it was being rebuilt there was a perfect opening for gentiles to be accepted into a hellinized version of judaism that was started by paul, based on jesus who followed johns teaching

outhouse

name me one scholar who doubts oral tradition during that period in that place

aa5874

You are NOT presenting any evidence from antiquity only Rhetorical ONE LINERS that have ZERO value.

You very well know that there is a 250 year old QUEST for the Historical Jesus because the NT is about Mythological Jesus--the Jesus of Faith.

Once people are looking for an Historical Jesus then the NT is a MASSIVE monkey wrench for HJers.

Jesus of the NT is mythological--the Jesus of Faith..

Please, Just go look for your historical Jesus in a credible source, pick up your monkey wrenches and place them in the garbage.

Get some proper tools.

Again, you have ZERO sources for the author of gMark. You cannot know that the author of gMark used oral tradition when he could have Fabricated the Jesus story fundamentally from so-called prophecies in Hebrew Scripture.

outhouse

yet you havnt named one scholar who doubts oral tradition.


should be simple to produce, if your right

aa5874

Oh, Oh!!! Another fake monkey wrench!!!! Why don't you get some real monkey wrenches?

You must have forgotten that I DEAL with EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE and SOURCES, SOURCES, SOURCES OF Antiquity.

I can't find a single credible source of antiquity that mentioned Paul.

Even the very Pauline writings are filled with Fiction and LIES.

Apologetic sources claimed Paul died UNDER NERO c 68 CE and that he was ALSO AWARE of gLuke deduced to have been written AFTER C 70 CE.

Paul was a FRAUD. He lived in another century under a different name and gave the FALSE impresiion that he wrote letters to Churches Before the Fall of the Temple c 70 CE and Met Apostles Peter, James and John.

Paul has been EXPOSED as a LIAR.

There is NO credible sources of antiquity that corroborated the existence of Apostles called Peter/Cephas, James and John.

Paul WITNESSED Fiction.

PAUL IS A FRAUD.

outhouse

So you cant post one scholar who claims there was no oral tradition then can you.


your beating around the bush

outhouse

Like it or not

there was a sect of judaism that was branching away from the corrupt jewish government BEFORE the fall of the temple. There wasnt just one sect, there were many. These are facts.


Its also a fact judaism had to rebuild itself after the fall of the temple, it did so under the Pharisees.



there was alot going on with or without paul, but there was a need for not only displaced jews to find a betetr religion but romans as well. The hellenization of judaism started before the temple fell.

Bythe time the temple fell there were so many different legends floating around in oral tradition this sect we were getting the 4 gospels. YOU dont get written literature from people who dont even belong to judaism instantly. It takes time for the jewish sect transform to a hellenistic version. And its what we see. paul just excellerated the process

Sheshbazzar

Let me see if I am understanding your reasoning correctly;

The existence of an oral tradition, is the proof that said oral tradition is a factual account ?

And a oral tradition becomes a factual account whenever a preponderance of scholars support that there was an oral tradition ?

.

aa5874

What you state about Paul and the Gospels cannot be found at all in any sources of antiquity.

I do NOT accept your IMAGINATION as an historical source or evidence.

I have challenged the NT because it is NOT historically reliable so it is a complete waste of time to use the NT for historical purposes.

Please, just go look for some credible sources for your Paul and Jesus.

I can ONLY accept Jesus as Mythology because that is how he was described.

In the NT, Pilate was a governor, Tiberius was Emperor, Caiaphas was high priest, Herod was tetrarch, Gabriel was an Angel, Satan was the Devil and JESUS was the Son of a Ghost, God the Creator who transfigured and WALKED on water.

Now, Jesus was MYTH--HE HAD no disciples called Peter/Cephas, JAMES and John.

How in the world did PAUL meet Peter/Cephas, James and John???

Jesus, Paul, Peter/Cephas, James and John LIVED in a world of Fiction and MYTHOLOGY.