Lunawalk

In reguards to god providing rain In the Gen chapter 1 it describes an firmament with water above and below it. Implying rain came from there. In the flood story the windows of heaven are opened and it rains on the earth. By the time Job was written they realized that rain came from cloulds.

Lunawalk

So do you get this view from the bible or the surounding cultures around the Hebrews. If your view comes from the bible how can you say it is scientic. What do think of God saying in Job the earth has foundations

Haener

Of the dinosaur page of the www.clarifyingchristianity.com/dinos.shtml website, mentioned in OP.

Ah yes, Job 40:15-24 does mention all these things. It also mentions Behemoth as having a navel but somehow that characteristic wasn't mentioned above. That looks like selective quoting to me.

Navels are of course only present in mammals.

'The first of the ways of god' is somehow interpreted as referring to the largest creature ever created by god though IMHO it could refer to numerous things, like the first creature created.

[snip numerous other criticism of website and its outrageous claims]

Crappy arguments, rubbish website.

braces_for_impact

Yes, and let us not forget the very scientific method used by the bible in Leviticus to cure leprosy:

14:2 This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest:
14:3 And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper;
14:4 Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean , and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:
14:5 And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water:
14:6 As for the living bird, he shall take it , and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water:
14:7 And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field.
14:8 And he that is to be cleansed shall wash his clothes, and shave off all his hair, and wash himself in water, that he may be clean: and after that he shall come into the camp, and shall tarry abroad out of his tent seven days.
14:9 But it shall be on the seventh day, that he shall shave all his hair off his head and his beard and his eyebrows, even all his hair he shall shave off: and he shall wash his clothes, also he shall wash his flesh in water, and he shall be clean.
14:10 And on the eighth day he shall take two he lambs without blemish, and one ewe lamb of the first year without blemish, and three tenth deals of fine flour for a meat offering, mingled with oil, and one log of oil.
14:11 And the priest that maketh him clean shall present the man that is to be made clean, and those things, before the LORD, at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:
14:12 And the priest shall take one he lamb, and offer him for a trespass offering , and the log of oil, and wave them for a wave offering before the LORD:
14:13 And he shall slay the lamb in the place where he shall kill the sin offering and the burnt offering, in the holy place: for as the sin offering is the priest's, so is the trespass offering: it is most holy:
14:14 And the priest shall take some of the blood of the trespass offering, and the priest shall put it upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot:
14:15 And the priest shall take some of the log of oil, and pour it into the palm of his own left hand:
14:16 And the priest shall dip his right finger in the oil that is in his left hand, and shall sprinkle of the oil with his finger seven times before the LORD:
14:17 And of the rest of the oil that is in his hand shall the priest put upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot, upon the blood of the trespass offering:
14:18 And the remnant of the oil that is in the priest's hand he shall pour upon the head of him that is to be cleansed: and the priest shall make an atonement for him before the LORD.
14:19 And the priest shall offer the sin offering, and make an atonement for him that is to be cleansed from his uncleanness; and afterward he shall kill the burnt offering:
14:20 And the priest shall offer the burnt offering and the meat offering upon the altar: and the priest shall make an atonement for him, and he shall be clean.
14:21 And if he be poor, and cannot get so much; then he shall take one lamb for a trespass offering to be waved, to make an atonement for him, and one tenth deal of fine flour mingled with oil for a meat offering, and a log of oil;
14:22 And two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, such as he is able to get; and the one shall be a sin offering, and the other a burnt offering.
14:23 And he shall bring them on the eighth day for his cleansing unto the priest, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, before the LORD.
14:24 And the priest shall take the lamb of the trespass offering, and the log of oil, and the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before the LORD:
14:25 And he shall kill the lamb of the trespass offering, and the priest shall take some of the blood of the trespass offering, and put it upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot:
14:26 And the priest shall pour of the oil into the palm of his own left hand:
14:27 And the priest shall sprinkle with his right finger some of the oil that is in his left hand seven times before the LORD:
14:28 And the priest shall put of the oil that is in his hand upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot, upon the place of the blood of the trespass offering:
14:29 And the rest of the oil that is in the priest's hand he shall put upon the head of him that is to be cleansed, to make an atonement for him before the LORD.
14:30 And he shall offer the one of the turtledoves, or of the young pigeons, such as he can get;
14:31 Even such as he is able to get, the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering, with the meat offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for him that is to be cleansed before the LORD.
14:32 This is the law of him in whom is the plague of leprosy, whose hand is not able to get that which pertaineth to his cleansing.

To sum it up:

Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly away. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally find another pair of birds. Kill one and dip the live bird in the dead bird's blood. Wipe some blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle the house with blood 7 times.

Pashah, doctors are so smug with their antibiotics and germ theory of disease.

Sven

... that Epicurus was a much better prophet than any OT writer:
http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=362

Random Evil Guy

could someone explain the point of this to me?

Worldtraveller

For the biblical scholars....when was this supposedly written?

Ahem....
Eratosthenes (276?-196? BC) was a Greek mathematician, astronomer, geographer, and poet, who measured the circumference of the earth with extraordinary accuracy by determining astronomically the difference in latitude between the Egyptian cities of Syene (now Aswan) and Alexandria.

And yet, the NT refers to the 'four corners of the earth'....

Cheers,
Lane

Tao of Pooh

As most of the other posters have already pointed out, general statements based on simple observations of the natural world does not confer divine revelation.


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JPD

Quote:

"The Bible also says that each star is unique.

1 Corinthians 15:41
There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory."

Never mind that the sun IS a star and is not extraordinary. Worthless. (The verse not the sun)

JPD

Quote:

"The Bible describes the recirculation of water.

Ecclesiastes 1:7
All the rivers run into the sea,
Yet the sea is not full;
To the place from which the rivers come,
There they return again.

Isaiah 55:10
For as the rain comes down, and the snow from heaven,
And do not return there,
But water the earth,
And make it bring forth and bud,
That it may give seed to the sower
And bread to the eater,


However one interprets this how does it serve as a foretelling? Water flows in a particular direction in a river. Water flows into the sea. Saying "there they return again" is inadequate as an explanantion. How does it return? There is a failure to comprehend that evaporation and transpiration occur: "and do not return there". Well yes, actually, if they didn't return there how would it rain in the first instance? Ecclesiastes states that return takes place but fails to provide any information extra to that that your average observer on the ground could realise just by looking at the environment, and Isaiah contradicts it by stating that return does not take place. Laughable really.