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Old 04-10-2004, 08:48 AM   #61
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The funny thing about those scriptures is they were not created all at once. They are an accretion of revalation over time. And over time it is obvious that god changes the rules. Supposedly the last rule book was published almost 2,000 years ago. What makes you think the rules are the same? Why couldn't the book of Mormon be a more recent edition? What makes you think there is not some other more recent religion that now represents the current rules?

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Old 04-10-2004, 11:43 AM   #62
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I believe the scriptures are inspired by God, or “God Breathed�. I also believe God does not lie.
Okay shall we then give God a Breath test?
God spent the entire second day...when he was still fresh...of creation building a thing called The Firmament. It's this solid structure that covers the Earth, the stars hang from it and the "divided" ocean water is above it, as is Heaven.
Is this a lie or is there really such a structure?
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I believe the scriptures are inspired by God, or “God Breathed�. I also believe God does not lie. Therefore if God says “I will do X, and refrain from doing Y�, then a Christian knows God will do X and will not do Y. So if someone claims “God told me he was going to do Y, and said He will not do X�, the Christian knows that because scripture is inspired, and God is not a liar, that the persons claims are false and God has not said what they claim He has said.

Scripture limits an omnipotent God in the sense that because God will not lie, and the scriptures are Gods word to mankind, God will never behave in a way that is contrary to scripture.

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
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The funny thing about those scriptures is they were not created all at once. They are an accretion of revalation over time. And over time it is obvious that god changes the rules. Supposedly the last rule book was published almost 2,000 years ago. What makes you think the rules are the same? Why couldn't the book of Mormon be a more recent edition? What makes you think there is not some other more recent religion that now represents the current rules?

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This thread started with someone asserting that Christians had no grounds for determining if a claim by this woman was actually a command of God or not. It was asserted the only reason the jury could have found her insane if they believed God speaks to people, was that they didn’t believe God would say that. They further asserted that such a command did not contradict the bible. I responded firstly explaining how this command contradicted teachings of scripture (it contradicts end times teachings), and then by explaining how a Christian can determine if other such claims are commands of God or not, e.g. by evaluating it in the light of scripture. A Christian (fundamentalists at least) assumes the inerrancy of the bible, and that God is not a liar. I don’t have the time or interest at the moment to debate either of these topics. I can’t see why I should go to the effort of following every tangent of debate that is thrown at me when not even my first argument has been addressed. The initial poster has disappeared from this thread out of boredom no doubt, and I don’t blame them.
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LP675, why are you doing this? {Edit}. The posts are here for all to see. I pointed out:

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There is no way to know what is good since only god can be the judge of that.
To which you responded:

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Scripture limits an omnipotent God in the sense that because God will not lie, and the scriptures are Gods word to mankind, God will never behave in a way that is contrary to scripture.
To which I responded:

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What makes you think the rules are the same? Why couldn't the book of Mormon be a more recent edition? What makes you think there is not some other more recent religion that now represents the current rules?
And somehow you think that this is not a legitimate line of enquiry for an OP that asks:

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So what do "modern" Christians make of new stories like this? Is there some legitimate way to discriminate the stories of the OT or is it just that people pick and choose what they are comfortable with and ignore all those unpleasantries found in the OT?
Now it was you that claimed that your religion does offer a reliable way to know how to discriminate, which was what the OP was about and now you say things like this:

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I don’t have the time or interest at the moment to debate either of these topics. I can’t see why I should go to the effort of following every tangent of debate that is thrown at me when not even my first argument has been addressed.
Now LP675, if the atheists on this board got the better of you then {Edit}.

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