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Old 05-09-2006, 12:52 PM   #11
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You imagine your own reward and anothers demise for crimes no greater than your own.
One who is gracious gives what is needed rather than what is deserved. I readily concede that while grace is something I need, I don't deserve it.

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It is a pathetic bit of self-deception to claim someone chose to believe or not believe in what you only imagine. It's idiotic and shows a personality quite unconcerned with the demise of his fellows.
You never asked (because you just know what I believe without asking), but I have tended to be a universalist. Yet enough people here have convinced me that even if they knew that God existed, they would refuse to honor Him that I have reconsidered. I now tend to think that God will allow people to go to Hell if they insist on going there.

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In other words, you are a low-life scum.
Is this the IIDB bait-and-switch? Have someone ask a seemingly polite question about what Christians believe, to foster dialogue perhaps, and then rush in to proclaim the answerer a low-life scum? Very polite. I'm sure it's especially good marketing.

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Honest of you not to feign sadness.
I don't have to feign anything. If people reject God either here or in the hereafter, that's tragic.

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Why do you avoid the question?
I try to avoid poorly posed questions which assume an erroneous predicate. How long have you been beating your wife?

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Not at all. God is imaginary since both of us can imagine him.
If God exists our pitiful god-constructs will matter not a bit.

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Only one of us is making the assertion that god is something more than imagination and that one is you. You have the burden of proof.
Weak-kneed atheism predictably makes that claim ad nauseum. It's far easier to destroy than to create after all.

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How many different gods can be interpreted from the bible? I'd say one for each reader.
Your number is way too low. People are much more creative than all that.

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The bible clearly describes a torture god.
Parts of it do. The First Amendment puts no limit on my freedom of speech but I still can't falsely yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre. Imagine that. Wooden literalism is mind-numbingly easy, but not very productive.
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Old 05-09-2006, 11:09 PM   #12
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One who is gracious gives what is needed rather than what is deserved. I readily concede that while grace is something I need, I don't deserve it.
Nor do you have it. You only imagine that you have it. Yet you love an imaginary being that you imagine will cause suffering for all others. What you love says something real about you even if the thing you love is only imaginary.

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You never asked (because you just know what I believe without asking), but I have tended to be a universalist. Yet enough people here have convinced me that even if they knew that God existed, they would refuse to honor Him that I have reconsidered. I now tend to think that God will allow people to go to Hell if they insist on going there.
So you changed your idea of god out of spite? Nice reasoning skills. Still imaginary entities are easily changed when they don't suit us.

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Is this the IIDB bait-and-switch? Have someone ask a seemingly polite question about what Christians believe, to foster dialogue perhaps, and then rush in to proclaim the answerer a low-life scum? Very polite. I'm sure it's especially good marketing.
You said you loved the biblical tormentor god. Then you claim you don't deserve grace and ought to go to hell. You must be a low life scum bag. Even your imaginary god agrees with me.

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I don't have to feign anything. If people reject God either here or in the hereafter, that's tragic.
No it isn't I'd reject every other fairy tale or imaginary thing you claim is real as well. Your imagination is not your friend if it turns you into a thing that could love the biblical eternal tormentor.

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I try to avoid poorly posed questions which assume an erroneous predicate. How long have you been beating your wife?
You merely try to avoid queestions that you have no answer for. Can you really lose all empathy for you fellow man so easily in favor of your pathetic imagined relationship with your invisible magic buddy? Is it really so difficult for you to see yourself for exactly what your pretended relationship has made you? I can understand why this would be, I can empathise with how it must make you feel.

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If God exists our pitiful god-constructs will matter not a bit.
If god exists he may take offence to the awful things you've said about him. I rather doubt you have anything to worry about from an actual god and nothing at all to worry about with the god you imagine.

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Weak-kneed atheism predictably makes that claim ad nauseum. It's far easier to destroy than to create after all.
Again tough shit and too bad. I make no assertions at all about the existence of god beyond the fact that he is imaginary.

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Parts of it do. The First Amendment puts no limit on my freedom of speech but I still can't falsely yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre. Imagine that. Wooden literalism is mind-numbingly easy, but not very productive.
Do you merely imagine away what you dislike? Why don't you imagine away the entire god and replace it with something that doesn't make you into a self confessed lowly scumbag that deserves eternal torment and doesn't deserve grace?
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Old 05-10-2006, 05:25 AM   #13
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You only imagine that you have it. Yet you love an imaginary being....

Still imaginary entities are easily changed when they don't suit us.

You must be a low life scum bag. Even your imaginary god agrees with me.

I'd reject every other fairy tale or imaginary thing you claim is real as well. Your imagination is not your friend....

Can you really lose all empathy for you fellow man so easily in favor of your pathetic imagined relationship with your invisible magic buddy?

If god exists he may take offence to the awful things you've said about him. I rather doubt you have anything to worry about from an actual god and nothing at all to worry about with the god you imagine.

Do you merely imagine away what you dislike? Why don't you imagine away the entire god and replace it with something that doesn't make you into a self confessed lowly scumbag that deserves eternal torment and doesn't deserve grace?
Is your life so boring that the best you can do is keep repeating the same nonsense over and over? It's pitiful, really.

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So you changed your idea of god out of spite?
Nope. Try again.

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You said you loved the biblical tormentor god.
It doesn't matter what I actually say; you keep repeating this falsehood. Pitiful.

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I make no assertions at all about the existence of god beyond the fact that he is imaginary.
And mere assertion is all it is. Your idea of argument is repetition of the bald assertion, louder each time. Pitiful.
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And mere assertion is all it is. Your idea of argument is repetition of the bald assertion, louder each time. Pitiful.
The Christian god can be imagined by anyone at all. You are the only one making any assertions that the Christian god is something more than an imagined being. I'm asserting nothing more than what we already agree on. God is imaginary and what you imagine god is is only something you imagine. While I have made no assertion past that which we already agree, it is you and only you that continues to repeat completely unsupported assertions that your invisible magic buddy actually exists someplace outside of yor imagination.
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