vid

http://www.tertullian.org/manuscript...l_79/f211v.jpg

Is this *seriously* handwritten?!? 3 colors, beatiful script, if someone told me it's printed font i wouldn't have a slightest doubt. Even those notes are decorated with colored leading letter (with alternating color, which bit disprooves later additions into notes). Anyway, beatyful handscript. Can't believe someone was able to write as nice as that...

I'd love to see some old Epicurean manuscripts and read them in original language, must be something...

Toto

Medieval manuscripts are collected as art - the handwriting was an art, and initial letters were often small works of art in themselves. I've seen a few exhibits at the local J. Paul Getty Museum, which has a collection of illuminated manuscripts, and periodically puts them on display. You can browse their website for items like this or this.

vid

Thank, understood. One last question: Which was the "standard" text of Heb 1:3b, to which scribe wanted to conform? Incorrect Septuagin translation?

patcleaver

How do I paste a picture from a file?
I tried copying and pasting from Word and it did not work.

Malachi151

I have some non-biblical examples here:

http://www.rationalrevolution.net/ar...history.htm#10

Scroll down a ways:

Roger Pearse

Indeed it is handwritten.

Medieval books were not written in what we think of as handwriting, but in various kinds of formal script known as "book hands". Producing books was a trade. Early printed books mimicked these types of mss, were designed to have initials added manually, and were sometimes mistaken for manuscripts written by a very regular scribe.

That particular volume was written in Cologne for John Grey, later bishop of Ely, in a German hand ca. 1442-4. Here is part of the catalogue entry by Roger Mynors for it:

Mid 15th cent. (doubtless A.D. 1442-4, during the donor's sojourn in Cologne). 313 ff. 14.75 x 10.25 in. 37 lines (228-313 in 2 cols). Quires of 8 leaves (except xxxvi10), wanting one before f.3 and two at the end, these probably blanks. Signatures in pencil, and catchwords. Good large German hand, with headings and running titles in red, paragraph marks and simple capitals in red and blue. Handsome initials in the Rhenish style, in blue and gold filled in with leafage reserved against a green ground, with good part-borders of penwork; f.3 has a full border of foliage, but the initial has been cut out. Greek quotations are written, much distorted, in latin letters or in a fancy alphabet.
...
There are very numerous marginalia in the scribe's hand all through the book, attributed by Langbaine on the analogy of MS 125 to William of Malmesbury (see above, p.xxix [This merely indicates that this and two other college MSS have notes derived from work by William, and detailed in M. R. James, Two Ancient English Scholars, Glasgow 1931]). These are found in another, perhaps slightly earlier, copy of the same collection, Gotha membr. i. 55, from which Erfurt, Amploniana F. 87 is said to be derived.

As you might expect, only a few dozen books written in antiquity survive (I don't mean fragments of books). Nearly all classical texts survive in medieval copies only.

That said, at Herculaneum they did dig up rolls (somewhat charred) from an Epicurean philosopher named Philodemus.

There is no reason why you shouldn't get interested in manuscripts. Very few people ever handle most of them, and mostly they languish, forgotten on the shelves. As for the original languages, well, for Greek one could use something like Kalos to parse each word, and of course one would get faster as one got used to it.

I did manage to persuade the Bodleian library in Oxford to let me handle and use their copy of Jerome's Chronicle. It was written in 440 AD, only 20 years after the author died. A great privilege indeed.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

Roger Pearse

From which library or source? (and likewise the following image)

Roger

Roger Pearse

In case anyone is misled, I should add that most medieval manuscripts are not artworks. Such expensive items are peripheral to the study of manuscripts.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

vid

I think just rightclick and some sort of "Save As" should work.

If not, you can try this: (sorry for being too verbose)
- open document in Word:
- capture screeen (PrintScreen or ALT+PrintScreen)
- start MS Paint (START->Programs->Accessories->Paint)
- paste captured screen (CTRL+V)
- save

doesn't matter if window borders and surroundings remain in picutre, i will cut the MS out and repost it, if needed.

Toto

I think patcleaver was asking how to post a picture here. For that, you need to post the .jpg on a website (such as photobucket) and then use the [IMG] tag to display it here.