Toto

We will have to have a little talk in the mods conference room.

Off to E

GenesisNemesis

Yeah... I used to believe stuff like this. I'm so glad I don't anymore!

Mace

Fuck I love Elsewhere

Goathead

your almost as good as the guy that told us about his visit with "the beast" - who appeared suspicioulsy like a dinosaur.

Anyway, wtf are yousaying here? were all doomed, or were all doomed but you?

Amedeo

I will not discuss the accuracy of your theology, but you are certainly on the right track. Your breed of theology ended after the early century of the Christian era -- and a Christian era it is for the Christian West, since the time Theodosius mandated Christianity and suppresses all "heretics."

I myself have pointed to two fundamental facts [according to the Judeo-Christian canonical scriptures] on some occasions:

The story of Adam and Eve tells the listening Hebrews that the wages of Eve and Adam's sin (the disobedience of the divine prohibition to eat the forbidden fruit) were disease, toil, and death. Well, as far as I know, no theologian has dared to tell what this presupposes: humans were created as things that do not undego decay, would last forever (hence they were made up of some astral substance, like that of people and things in dreams), could tend the farm or deliver babies without toils, and so forth. At the same time bodies needed nourishment and could enter into generative intercourse. In effect, sin changed the ontological constitution of humans and perhaps more.

Saul of Tarsus (who called himself a Jew of Jews -- a Jew par excellence) invented a Jesus who atoned for man's (original) sin. Thus, the man who is purified by the Spirit is restored to the stage of innocence; the inherited sin is annulled. Unfortunately, the new man has not thereby become immortal and exempt from disease and pain. These benefits are postponed till after the end of the world and the establishment of the kingdom of God. So, this kingdom is in effect Eden/Paradise restored. This means that men will be like ghosts or dream-people, with an astral nature of what others called the "shades" of the dead. Physical reality will be transformed into phantom-like reality.

Saul/Paul made it a point that when Jesus died, his body was not subjected to decay, and then he flew to heaven in his incorruptible body. He prefigures things to come. The men who accept him will gain immortality (incorruptibility) after the apocalyptic end. Things will not be deleted, as you seem to suggest; they will be transformed into quintessential matter [which Aristotle attributed to the visible but eternal planets]: astral things.

The angels and archangels in the Total Bible, who conduct their business in our waking or sleeping hours, are astral in nature. (The ones who were met by the men of Sodom were highly desirable for their good looks.) The gods themselves {the Elohim; Yahweh} are certain astral in nature; they are immortal and invisible, but they operate in the world, speak to people, etc. They created the world in their own ontological image, but then Eve spoiled the soup and was responsible for the onset of corruptible matter. (You have to watch your words: when you say that there will be only energy and space left, you are granting too much, since energy is what can arrange itself into bulky bodies, which are disintegretable, corruptible. A magic transformation has to occur.)

Your post has been virtually stamped, "Condemned", since it is too close to revealing unorthodox truths. (In the old days, there was the INDEX of Forbidden Books, for the books which had escaped burning.)

This is the uniquely Jewish theological/mythic theory of reality: Before and after sin, it is dream-like or astral in nature. (The ancient view that there are mortal [physical] and immortal [astral] things is, of course, not indigenous to the Total Bible. It is only in the Judaean religion that materiality is, so to speak, the fallen state of nature; astrality is the norm. And matter, for the Creationists and Designists, is impotent and unable to give rise to the so-called living things.)

The theology in question is called escatological theology -- concerning first and last things.

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What's your theory or belief on the wicked?


My theory or belief on the wicked is this: They like to feel, in the astral plane or spirit world, the disgust or uncomfortableness or rage from other ppl caused by themself or someone other. A living inspiration of what I never want to be. Sick ass beings. But there's no rest for the wicked! Like the Godsmack song goes. The wicked mind is seperated from the dead human body and transferred into the full astral spirit form and then is thrown into everlasting fire staring within the sun. The sun is glorious! And it is the throne of the Sun of Man. The Sun of Man has great commanding control over the astral world because the Sun of Man is as the astral world though the wicked dont realize this until it's too late. And there is nothing the wicked can do, but go away into everlasting punishment that the holy angels take them to. The Sun of man is in control of the holy angels (or rather the holy energy).

Everything hidden will become known. Count on it!

The Sheep and the Goats

"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left."

"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world."

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:"

"And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.."

invisible trousers

the last astral plane i was on had a broken tray table

Baalazel

It will however remain in your Recycle Bin should you regret having deleted it.
Not knowing is one quarter the battle. Not caring is nine tenths the battle and not giving a shit is retreating from the battle to save your own ass.
Those of you who are astral projectors will continue to exist in other IIDB fora. We regret that we are not able to accommodate you here in ~elsewhere~ but things are a bit crowded. We expect conditions to improve soon at which time we will send invitations to those we feel best exemplify the traits of astral projection. Please know we take this process very seriously and be assured that should you not receive an invitation it is because your astral does not project properly. There is nothing to be done about it.
The teleportation of minds is a technology that has not been proven. Should you desire your mind to be teleported you will, of course, be required to read and sign forms which absolve us from all and any obligation to put you in the right mind or, as the case may be, to put the right mind in you. That we have no clue is a base canard leveled at us by other teleporters whose methods are slipshod and without the usual safeguards which have been applied to the emerging mind teleporting industry.
Some confusion has arisen regarding the terms ‘astral beings’ and ‘astral projectors’. While it is unfortunate that astral beings will be left behind in hell recent research seems to indicate hell is really more like a Sunday bar-b-que in the backyard than flames and torment for all eternity. In all fairness we must point out that some read the research to say the astral beings will be the coals that fire the grill but they are in the minority. In any event astral projectors will have their choice of hot dogs or hamburgers and imported beer.

We recommend sun block with a SPF of thirteen million just to be safe.
The subcontractors are on strike and the rain has really slowed everything down but we see improvement in the third quarter with the main levels being completed no later than mid August. Change orders still must be brought under control and the supply of materials and substructures remains troubling. However, the new VP of procurement should have the problem licked soon. GO Bob!
Energy is not, I repeat, not a problem. We are exploring legal means to insure our needs will be met as contracted and are certain the energy train will not fail us. Other methods are available should we require them and the project will go forward. There is some doubt it is true that we can find the necessary energy to last for eternity but our research division is working overtime on the problem and reports indicate progress is being made.
It has been raised in the board meeting that this motto does not capture the true scope and majesty of our undertaking. The board has suggested we hold a contest to find a new motto and that the contest be open to all employees. Put your thinking caps on and let’s find a motto we can all stand behind and be proud of.

As a first attempt at a new motto this was offered by the VP of marketing. I think we can do better. Don’t you?


Baal

Grizzly

You had to discuss before sending a timecube post to ~E~?

That's being cautious...