xorbie

Ah... good times.

As to your post... perhaps next time you could respond to my argument. Do some people take sports too seriously? Yes, and you are one of them. Does this make professional sports immoral? No. And have fun proving that sports are not "real." Are they imaginery? Fictitious? Just a mere figment of the imagination, perhaps? No, they are quite real, I assure you. And I enjoy sports (both watchind and playing), but I have pride in myself for other acheivements and I have interest in things you might very well consider real.

Your ad homs are making my a little tired though, so I think I'll just bow out at this stage.

Joel

Simiangrunt

Yup, it gives people an avenue to recharge (like the weekend does for the average worker). So, it's important in this light.

Nah, as I mentioned in my post, if soccer was the only thing for these people, then there would be a problem. However, it is just one of the many important things that they focus on.

For the 2 people in the world that this applies to, they are in a sad situation.

Watching sports is not a waste since people like doing this; and as mentioned, this serves as a form of recreation, of relaxing after a hard day's work.

Playing the sport is good too, but it's not an "either or" situation.

neo_mp5

"Yup, it gives people an avenue to recharge (like the weekend does for the average worker). So, it's important in this light."

as i said, that's not what it's about. what do they gain from watching? what's the appeal? it makes them feel like they belong. it seems like when the herding instinct was being passed out, most people went back for seconds. they want to fit in. they tell themselves that it's fun to watch someone else have fun. they want to fit in.

"Nah, as I mentioned in my post, if soccer was the only thing for these people, then there would be a problem. However, it is just one of the many important things that they focus on."

we don't have that in north america. everybody's too damn busy watching their hockey and football games, and there aren't as many big obvious problems here that people have to deal with, nothing to distract them from their distraction.

"For the 2 billion people in the world that this applies to, they are in a sad situation."

yes. yes they are

The Other Michael

Hello neo_mp5,

Simiangrunt wrote "For the 2 people in the world that this applies to, they are in a sad situation."

You inserted "billion" after "2" when quoting him.

I take a very dim view of deceitful behavior like that.

If you want to quote another user to make a point - make sure you quote them accurately. If you want to change their words be sure to make it clear that the new wording is yours and not theirs.

I also advise you to try calming down a bit before posting - you're pushing the edge on some of your comments and if you continue you're going to start seeing gaping holes in some of your posts.

Michael
MF&P Moderator (rudge)

Tom Sawyer

The appeal is that it's enjoyable and people have a good time watching it. I can't understand the problem that you see with that. Granted, they're not out there curing cancer, but what's wrong with enjoying something for the sake of enjoying it?

Are you seriously suggesting that none of the billions of people who watch sports games actually enjoy doing so and are just doing it to fit in with the guy next to them, who in turn are just pretending to like it to fit in with the first guys? No offense, but that's the worst argument I've ever heard.

Damn right we are! GO LEAFS GO!!!!!!

True, what kind of sad society have we built where we aren't in constant danger of death and disease, so we can take time out to enjoy ourselves. Woe is us. :banghead:

chapka

Umm...two points.

First of all, there are soccer fans in North America, if that's what you were trying to say. Not just American soccer fans like me (go Quakes!), but I hear they occasionally sling the pelota around in Mexico. Second of all, the idea that Europe has problems and America doesn't is surprising, if that's what you were trying to say. And the idea that American sports fans are somehow more fanatical than, say Brazilians or British fans seems surprising, too. Could you back these up, please?

Oh, and I'm still waiting for my apology, BTW.

neo_mp5

"Hello neo_mp5,

Simiangrunt wrote "For the 2 people in the world that this applies to, they are in a sad situation."

You inserted "billion" after "2" when quoting him.

I take a very dim view of deceitful behavior like that."

i corrected him, that's all

"If you want to quote another user to make a point - make sure you quote them accurately. If you want to change their words be sure to make it clear that the new wording is yours and not theirs.

I also advise you to try calming down a bit before posting - you're pushing the edge on some of your comments and if you continue you're going to start seeing gaping holes in some of your posts."

you're telling me to calm down? here i am, all cold and emotionless, beiong told to calm down. that makes sense

neo_mp5

"The appeal is that it's enjoyable and people have a good time watching it. I can't understand the problem that you see with that. Granted, they're not out there curing cancer, but what's wrong with enjoying something for the sake of enjoying it?"

thank you for avoiding the question. i said "what is the appeal?" not "what is their reaction to the appeal?"

"Are you seriously suggesting that none of the billions of people who watch sports games actually enjoy doing so and are just doing it to fit in with the guy next to them, who in turn are just pretending to like it to fit in with the first guys? No offense, but that's the worst argument I've ever heard."

that's the way things work. it's the same reason people whatch entertainment news, listen to popular music, watch canadian idol, etc. they want to fit in.

"Damn right we are! GO LEAFS GO!!!!!! "

spread the word amoung the hockey fans. lacrosse is our national sport. i'm sick of that "our game" crap on the commercials

"True, what kind of sad society have we built where we aren't in constant danger of death and disease, so we can take time out to enjoy ourselves. Woe is us. :banghead:"

thank you for proving my point. people are too busy watching sports to see the problems we do have, thinking we live in this flawless world.

The Other Michael

neo_mp5,

1. Modifying someone's text within a quote is NOT making a correction. Furthermore, unless you've got some evidence of Simiangrunt's mental processes that is not available to the rest of us, you've got no option but to presume that he meant what he wrote. If you want to point out what you see as a possible error, feel free to do that. But make the correction in your own words without attempting to make another user's comments support your statements when they didn't originally do that.

2. Please review the Forum rules and policies as well as the MF&P supplemental rules especially the part about not arguing with moderators within a thread. If you wish to dispute a moderator action, open a thread in Bugs.

Any additional off-topic posts in the thread are subject to deletion.

Michael
MF&P Moderator (Unit)

Tom Sawyer

Here is your question:

Here is my answer:

I fail to see how this is avoiding the question. If you want to be pedantic, the appeal is that they joy watching the sport. Their reaction to the appeal is that they feel enjoyment. Sometimes when I watch sports, I am alone. I am still able to enjoy the sport in that situation, even when I'm not looking around making sure that I'm agreeing with everyone else that I actually like something that we're all privately hating. Watching sports appeals to me. Since I obvoiusly seem to be mistaken in this belief, please let me know why I find watching sports to be such a bore, so I can turn off the TV and pick up that old Neitzche book.

Is there anything popular that is actually popular? Can you conceive of the idea that lots of people do these things because lots of people want to do these things? There are some people who are sheep and pretend to like things in order to fit in with the crowd. The key thing to realize, though, is that the crowd is there in the first place because the thing is likeable. Just because you don't find it likeable doesn't mean that everyone who says they do is lying to themselves and everyone else. For example, I hate country music (except for the occasional Shaina Twain video with the mute button on ), but I am able to realize that there are others who actually get enjoyment out of listening to it and aren't just trying to act like they think illiterate hicks should act so they're friends will continue to like them. Many, many people in the world aren't actually that insecure and are able to enjoy things for their own sake, rather than to impress others.

Dude, I know that this is an infidels board, but that kind of blasphemy is unacceptable. Hockey is, and always has been, our national sport. Just because some bureaucrat tried to raise lacrosse's profile by giving it an official label doesn't mean jack shit. It's a second string sport and always has been. It is beyond me how someone who lives in Alberta cannot understand the way of life that hockey is and thinks that lacrosse in some way compares to that.

OK, so when you said that there aren't many big, obvious problems for people to deal with so there's nothing to distract them from watching sports, your point was watching sports makes them too busy to see these problems. You're right, I completely missed that and when you said that people don't have to deal with big enough problems to distract them from watching sports, I thought you meant that the problems weren't big enough to distract them from watching sports. My mistake and I apologize for basing my response on what you wrote as opposed to some nebulous point I should have inferred based upon what you didn't write. :banghead: