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Old 11-02-2005, 12:59 AM   #221
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There is no god but a quantum fluctuation, and Peskin & Schroeder are his prophets!

The proof is obvious, taking the 1,...,10,20,...,100,... numerology:

product of letters in "quantum" is 288 * 10^10 -- an obviously significant exponent there, and also "28" (a perfect number) appearing. This happening once could obviously be coincidence, but there's more!

"quantum field theory". Sum of letters is 2088, again we see the perfect number 28 (separated by the highly important 0), and again the 8 after (I'll return to this later). The product of the letters is 282... * 10^19, again with 28 appearing prominantly.

"QFT" (standard abbreviation for above) is even more proof that god is a quantum fluctuation! The sum of letters is 286, where again the 28 motif appears, but this time together with the first perfect number, 6.

The probability of this happening by coincidence is minute, so we've scientifically demonstrated that god is a fluctuation.

Now, moving onto his prophets. Quoting from the book of "introduction to quantum theory" by Peskin & Schroeder, Chapter 2 sentence 1:

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Originally Posted by Peskin & Schroeder
Quantum field theory is the application of quantum mechanics to dynamical systems of fields, in the same sense that the basic course in quantum mechanics is concerned mainly with the quantization of dy namical systems of particles.
Now, running this on the first sentence, we come up with the incontrovertible proof (the program doesn't even take into account the extra mysticism of multiplying by the number of letters or words used yet). Here is the proof.

Praise be to Peskin & Schroeder!
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Old 11-02-2005, 01:11 AM   #222
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I don't know what the title of the Bible is. However, just inside the front cover it reads:

"This is a work of fiction. Any resemblance of the characters to any historical persons or any similarity of acts to historic events is purely coincidental."
That's odd. My Bible doesn't have that in it. But anyway, pmarra, this really is a poor way of trying to convince an Atheist, Agnostic, or other non-believer of the Bible's inspiration. Such codes can also be found in other books besides the Bible... :down:
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Old 11-02-2005, 01:37 AM   #223
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this really is a poor way of trying to convince an Atheist, Agnostic, or other non-believer of the Bible's inspiration.
Exactly. Anyone who resorts to using Numerology to "prove" something is basically dishonest. It's mathematical snake oil.
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Old 11-02-2005, 01:40 AM   #224
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And, you did not present your credentials, when explicitly asked.

In the history of the humanity there are many famous scientists that made important discoveries

But I don't know scientists that discovered the Title of the Bible

I don't believe that you can show to me a book more studied of the Bible in the whole history of the humanity
(http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/ The world's best-selling and most widely distributed book is the Bible, with an estimated 2.5 billion copies sold since 1815. It has been translated into 2,233 languages and dialects.)

I am the first one that discovered the Title of the Bible

I have discovered the Title of the Bible using only scientific methods

If my affirmations seem you unbelievable or exaggerated you can read this post of another forum

Pmarra,
Uck! Why do so many think all wisdom ends with them and that thousands of people looking at the OT for thousands of years and somehow they all missed it...except for one other guy?
Sheesh...
Methinks, thou does presume too much!
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http://www.christianwebsite.com/talk...t=18595&page=3

in this post there is the doubt that I have made such an extraordinary discovery
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Old 11-02-2005, 01:44 AM   #225
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I have discovered the Title of the Bible using only scientific methods
Nope, you did some arbitrary mathematical operations on the numbers produced by reading the original hebrew as numbers instead of words.

Oh, and God still got Pi wrong.
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Old 11-02-2005, 08:30 AM   #226
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As I've noted before, It can reasonably inferred that some people would never change their views even if we found e, pi, the golden mean, and the fine structure constant in the first sentence of The Humanist Manifesto, The Origin of Species, and Principia Discordia. Even so, other readers might find the following links instructive.

They laughed at Galileo, too!
Bad Logic
Top 10 Traits of the Pseudoscientist
Skeptic's Dictionary: Numerology
Skeptic's Dictionary: Bible Codes
sci.skeptic FAQ
Wikipedia: Numerology
Wikipedia: Pseudoscience
Wikipedia: Bible Codes (note: Wikipedia is more forgiving here than I would be, but I include this link for completeness)

To paraphrase the late Isaac Asimov, "To be a persecuted genius, you not only have to be persecuted, you also have to be right." In other words, just because everyone is laughing at you doesn't mean you're a genius.
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:13 AM   #227
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Cool Finding Pi From The Bible

Here is clear evidence that a very precise version of Pi can be found using the bible - this even works with both the Hebrew versions, English versions - in fact any version.

First of all, find a a square room. Now, draw a circle on that ground so that the circle is touching all the walls. Drawing a pentagram in the middle of the circle adds to the atmosphere of this calculation.

Next, tear out all the pages of your bible. Then throw them in the air. It helps to spin around and run about the room when doing this.

Wait until the pages settle on the ground. Then count the number of pages inside the circle/pentagram(let's call this inCount), and the number outside the circle/pentagram (outCount).

If you multiply inCount by 4 (a number refered to in the bible several times) and divide it by the sum of inCount and outCount you get a stunning accurate value of Pi. Much more accurate than the people who wrote the bible could have known at the time.

Divine, surely?
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In the history of the humanity there are many famous scientists that made important discoveries. But I don't know scientists that discovered the Title of the Bible.... I am the first one that discovered the Title of the Bible
Well, one thing you're not is a logician. We should trust your "important discovery" because you're a great scientist, and the reason you're a great scientist is that you've made a great discovery which all the other scientists missed? Do you see a little problem with this argument?
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Old 11-02-2005, 11:03 AM   #229
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I gave up halfway down the thread, but I would like to leave you with this thought, and remember, we are talking about an omnipotent god.

Suppose god originally created the circle such that the circumference was three times the diameter. But when men started to learn to count he changed it to the present value to keep them confused. Kinda like that tower of babel thing.

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Well, one thing you're not is a logician. We should trust your "important discovery" because you're a great scientist, and the reason you're a great scientist is that you've made a great discovery which all the other scientists missed? Do you see a little problem with this argument?


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