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Old 12-06-2007, 10:13 AM   #81
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Why bother writing it then? What was the author's intention?
Who knows? We can only speculate. Perhaps it was to make a point. Do you think Tacitus actually meant his audience to take the speeches he invented and placed in the mouths of foreign generals as literally true?

What is the methodology used to determine which parts of the text the original author intended literally and which parts the author did not intend literally? I find it difficult to believe that anyone can reliably make these distinctions. The fact that you responded to the question What was the author's intention? with who knows? is not encouraging as it suggests the distinction can be made without knowing (even speculatively) the author's intent. Please elaborate.
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Old 12-06-2007, 10:25 AM   #82
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Why bother writing it then? What was the author's intention?
Who knows? We can only speculate. Perhaps it was to make a point.

I think he was trying to give his god some street cred...
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Old 12-06-2007, 10:26 AM   #83
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Who knows? We can only speculate. Perhaps it was to make a point.

I think he was trying to give his god some street cred...
In what way?
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I think he was trying to give his god some street cred...
In what way?
My god can "go to 11" miracles...
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Old 12-06-2007, 05:21 PM   #85
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In what way?
My god can "go to 11" miracles...
While I hate to break up this riveting exchange I think the class would like to know, Solitary Man, how one can tell the difference between when the text is to be taken literally and when it isn't. Can you enlighten us with your methodology, or have you just made this up on the fly? It's quite a claim and your silence is telling.
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How do you know when a speech given by Tacitus is to be read as literal or not?
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I think he was trying to give his god some street cred..

My god can "go to 11" miracles...
While I hate to break up this riveting exchange I think the class would like to know, Solitary Man, how one can tell the difference between when the text is to be taken literally and when it isn't. Can you enlighten us with your methodology, or have you just made this up on the fly? It's quite a claim and your silence is telling.
That one is easy. When it supports his beliefs, it's literal. When it doesn't, it's figurative...

Class may now sneak off to the bathroom and smoke one...

(I know, I know... I always wanted me one of those colored letter bibles where the literal and figarutive were differentiated. Funny no one offers them.)
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Don't derail your own discussion. Is it fraud if the author who wrote about Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead didn't think intend for that story to be taken literally?
or that the author of Mark didn't intend for the story to be taken literally... Not at all!
hmm? where did you get this conclusion from?
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That one is easy. When it supports his beliefs, it's literal. When it doesn't, it's figurative...
Which beliefs would that be?
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How do you know when a speech given by Tacitus is to be read as literal or not?
That's not going to work.

You have made the claim that the author did not intend for the raising of Lazarus to be taken literally. How do you know this? So far you have provided absolutely nothing, and now you appear to be avoiding the question.
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