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Old 03-06-2009, 03:06 AM   #31
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Strangely, that was the christian approach.
Christians burned alive by "Sir" Thomas More for the crime of possessing a Bible translated from Greek into English instead of one translated from Greek into Latin.
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How do we distinguish "false" claims about various gods, from "true" claims. Since there are no supernatural beings, how can there be any true claims of the existence of gods? But, if there are no true claims, then, how can there exist the negative of something that doesn't exist?
At least in Boolean Algebra, one needs something to exist, before one can repudiate it.
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I read his book last month and liked it, obviously. Had also read “Misquoting Jesus”. And yet, he misses some flagrant objections to the so-called inerrancy of the gospels. Such as the general overruling Luke surreptitiously did regarding/against the other two synoptic, when he wrote his first three verses. I read the book quicker than I wanted, and promised myself to go back and read it a second time. Maybe later.
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Must be OK to do it now, then, if we can claim someone else did it first?
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Must be OK to do it now, then, if we can claim someone else did it first?
I think atheists should go the ultra-militant route and write a book, or (whisper it), appear on a radio programme, or in the ultimate act of militancy, interview believers in God(s), and make a TV programme of the interviews.

Burning people alive is so 16th century.
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Is there anything new in Ehrman's book, which would make people hear think 'Gosh, I never knew that?'
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But God, seeing the awful bigotry tarnished his name, created atheists and bigots among them.

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No, I don't think so. It is other scholars' refurbishing, I felt.
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Ah, the repressed desire!


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I too found your statement about deception hinting at libel on your part. You are welcome to your humble opinion that Carrier is "peddling bilge", but your claim of deception is of another order in that it is attacking the person's character rather than simply displaying your unsupported opinions.

But I take this "Perhaps not" as an attempt to downplay your previous faux pas without actually retracting it.
There is a discrepancy between Carrier's avowed public position as a mythicist and his self-representation as an objective investigator. This in itself is deception.

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I too found your statement about deception hinting at libel on your part. You are welcome to your humble opinion that Carrier is "peddling bilge", but your claim of deception is of another order in that it is attacking the person's character rather than simply displaying your unsupported opinions.

But I take this "Perhaps not" as an attempt to downplay your previous faux pas without actually retracting it.
There is a discrepancy between Carrier's avowed public position as a mythicist and his self-representation as an objective investigator. This in itself is deception.
You are only making your accusation seem ridiculous, in that you (who have proven to be totally incapable of making your non-mythical opinion seem serious with the backing of any evidence) cannot accept that someone can hold a different understanding of the evidence from you. Your claim of deception merely seems to be your inability projected onto Carrier.

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I was asking you to clarify your statement: He has made his own position quite clear, and will presumably endeavor to substantiate it. Is there some ideological reason for you not to want to do so?


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