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spamandham · 08-20-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenton Mulley

He's a master of something though. Annoyance? Bullshit? Being totally cocksure to the point of offensive while actually being totally wrong about everything? Master of talking right past people while he addresses some phantom audience he believes is hungry for his teaching/preaching?

You decide.

Believe me, I have decided.

bacht · 08-20-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spamandham

A fundamentalist? Certainly. A master...I think not. It's pretty easy to see through the shallow arguments, strawmen, and ad homs. A master keeps you engaged and presents new arguments that haven't been rehashed endlessly.

He's a master of something though. Annoyance? Bullshit? Being totally cocksure to the point of offensive while actually being totally wrong about everything? Master of talking right past people while he addresses some phantom audience he believes is hungry for his teaching/preaching?

You decide.

He seems to have mastered sarcasm and evasion. He also seems to think that if no one here can refute his points satisfactorily then the issue is won.
Whether any of us can present an airtight case is secondary. Jesus either lived or he didn't, regardless of Steven's or anyone else's opinions. Truth is more important than sophistry.

Steven Avery · 08-20-2009, 01:03 PM

Hi Folks,

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Originally Posted by spamandham

shallow arguments, strawmen, and ad homs.

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Originally Posted by Fenton Mulley

Annoyance? Bullshit? ... offensive .. . totally wrong about everything? ... talking right past people ... phantom audience

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Originally Posted by bacht

mastered sarcasm and evasion... sophistry.

Ah, greetings spam and Fenton and bacht. So interesting the response on the forum when a fella simply comes on board and clearly states they believe the whole Bible as the word of God. And looks to see if there is a level playing field and looks to see if the 'skeptics' are really open-minded or not, are they 'skeptical' when it comes to anti-Bible arguments. Seems like this does touch a nerve

.

Shalom,
Steven Avery

bacht · 08-20-2009, 01:41 PM

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Ah, greetings spam and Fenton and bacht. So interesting the response on the forum when a fella simply comes on board and clearly states they believe the whole Bible as the word of God. And looks to see if there is a level playing field and looks to see if the 'skeptics' are really open-minded or not, are they 'skeptical' when it comes to anti-Bible arguments. Seems like this does touch a nerve

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I hope you're not naive enough to think this is a simple issue. I'm agnostic about God, but the Bible is clearly a challenging and contradictory collection of material to sift through. Even without the supernatural mumbo-jumbo there's a lot of head-scratchers.

This site does host formal debates if you prefer having a referee.

Yellum Notnef · 08-20-2009, 02:09 PM

Formal debates don't work when you're really here just to preach.

spamandham · 08-20-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Avery

are they 'skeptical' when it comes to anti-Bible arguments.

If you ever bother to start paying any attention, you'll have your answer.

Steven Avery · 08-20-2009, 05:50 PM

Hi Folks,

Thank you for your thoughts spam and Fenton and bacht, y'all sound like you toned it down a 1/2 notch, at least for the moment.

Shalom,
Steven

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Yellum Notnef Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 4,676	Formal debates don't work when you're really here just to preach.

08-20-2009, 05:50 PM	#47
Steven Avery Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 2,293	Hi Folks, Thank you for your thoughts spam and Fenton and bacht, y'all sound like you toned it down a 1/2 notch, at least for the moment. Shalom, Steven

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