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Old 03-05-2006, 12:17 PM   #211
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No.

The evidence is hard to miss unless you want to miss it.
Oh, I see. All those former Christians here who struggled with their faith for years, if not decades, wanted to keep it with all their heart, but finally deconverted netherless - they all wanted to miss the evidence?



ETA: Holy-fucking-shit! I read your post with the supposed evidence.

Note to myself: Don't bother responding any more. Un-fucking-believable.

I don't swear that often, so the above means something
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Old 03-05-2006, 04:19 PM   #212
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But you don't get to disagree. Julian
Seems to me that I just did.
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My post recites facts. Julian
Look back at my copy of your post on post #203. It appears to me that there are no facts, only uninformed emotional opinions.

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Do you disagree with gravity? Try stepping of a 10 story building and see how far that disagreement will get you. You are simply displaying a complete ignorance of science and that facts of the world. You can disagree with the fact that grass is green and the sky is blue but all you show is abject ignorance. Read, learn and then make your points rather than the current demonstration of a profound lack of knowledge.

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I agree with gravity and it wouldn't surprise me to find that I know much more about science and the facts of the world than you do. I certainly have read books by others who know much more than you do and agree with me. I also understand their arguements. That is why, when I gave the short summary of why Christianity is true, I said you can find the evidence if you want to know the truth. There are plenty of good resources with lots of facts to support my points.
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Old 03-13-2006, 02:03 AM   #213
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Look back at my copy of your post on post #203. It appears to me that there are no facts, only uninformed emotional opinions.
This has been bugging me since not long after I posted it and I just want to correct it for the record. I don't think your post cited really consists of emotional opinions, just uninformed. Still not exactly a compliment, but I believe more accurate.
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Old 03-13-2006, 08:22 AM   #214
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This has been bugging me since not long after I posted it and I just want to correct it for the record. I don't think your post cited really consists of emotional opinions, just uninformed. Still not exactly a compliment, but I believe more accurate.
When it comes to evolution, you are clearly incredibly misinformed. And that's all there is to it. If you disagree, then I suggest you start a thread in the Evolution v. Creationism forum here on II. There you will find some of the leading PhDs in the world who will be more than happy to explain to you just how woefully misinformed you are. You said things like random assembly, popping into existence and other such bizarre notions, WHICH ARE NOT HELD BY ANY SCIENTIST ANYWHERE. The fact that you insist that they are shows that you have read nothing by any reputable scientist. They are stawmen. Please start a thread in E/C and see where that gets you.

And no, you don't get to disagree. At least, not without making yourself look like a complete ignoramus. So, put your money where your mouth is and go and discuss it or stop spouting nonsense.

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BTW, aChristian, EVERYBODY here believes in special creation for log homes and boeing 747s. They did evolve, but only through a designer.

But they're not living organisms....
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When it comes to evolution, you are clearly incredibly misinformed. And that's all there is to it. If you disagree, then I suggest you start a thread in the Evolution v. Creationism forum here on II. There you will find some of the leading PhDs in the world who will be more than happy to explain to you just how woefully misinformed you are. You said things like random assembly, popping into existence and other such bizarre notions, WHICH ARE NOT HELD BY ANY SCIENTIST ANYWHERE.
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It sounds like you 'are' getting emotional now. The points I made are valid. Scientists who believe in evolution may not like their views characterized correctly and may try to avoid a clear presentation of their view, but that is what I have done. I have basically said the emperor has no clothes.
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BTW, aChristian, EVERYBODY here believes in special creation for log homes and boeing 747s. They did evolve, but only through a designer.

But they're not living organisms....
No difference if you think it through.
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No difference if you think it through.
Why don't you explain it to us? I see a huge difference.
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The points I made are valid.
You have made no valid points as I have already pointed out that your fundamental assertion is clearly flawed.

I also pointed out that this discussion belongs in E/C.
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Scientists who believe in evolution may not like their views characterized correctly
Your characterizations are not correct just because you say they are correct. You are basically presenting an Argument from Authority and claiming to be the authority.
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