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Visionary7 · 07-22-2004, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DISSIDENT AGGRESSOR

I see you are re-reading what was actually posted <removed>

However when I said impossible it was asking how could their be anything other than Christ-believing Christian, Christians are only allowed to believe in Christ.
You responded with:

Which is actually the only thing you have posted that makes sense! But then later on you posted:

So now you want me to actually seek help via the internet? No thanks, a majority of the people on this forum get peeved enough at me for my Moronic posts, trying to give me advice and critiques that are not needed, except through their rose colored veiw of the "harsh reality" of life. I say to much self-indulgence results in shattered lives

but I am posting this on the internet were hypocrisy reigns! A bunch of drunken, stoner newbies in the game of life spouting out their opinions on how I should behave! I say our country is at war! Right or wrong it is your country, take arms young freedom loving children and take your knowledge to the real fight. Show us you really know what life is really about! The world has enough preachers and artists, what we need is garbagemen! Yes it may be my generations garbage but it is your turn to take it out [ a small favor to ask IMO for wiping your butts and snotty noses and teaching you to tie your boots!]. Do not be afraid my children for you have your Gods and your HIGH, HIGH, HIGH intelligence to see you through the battle, beat your keyboard into a Nuclear Missile. Fire at will and if you get confused, pretend they are all Will. If you want to cry, just move along, cause you are going to die, so DIE WITH YOUR BOOTS ON! Or do you have issues with having your head shaved, and living in close quarters with memebers of the same sex? Don't ask, Don't tell!

There is evidence that Rabbi was re-written from rabbit, the "T" was omitted for obvious reasons, Elmer Fudd shows this in the Bugs Bunny cartoon when he sings kill the Wabbit, You have more than likely only seen the sanitized version in the original Elmer nails Bugs to a cross. Everyone had a part in killing Jesus, I get peeved when people try to just blame the Romans, or the jews, ect. Yes even Strong Atheists [if their really are such creatures] had their part in killing Jesus.

Those who can do. Those who can't teach, or sit on their brains dreaming they will be as great as their teachers tell them they'll be. [This is obviously a scam to get more of mom&dads money for tuition, or worse my tax money!]

NOT ME! < Does best to imitate Curly Q> NYUK-NYUK!

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Disclaimer

Any misspelling and/or false definitions in the above posts are of fault of DISSIDENT AGGRESSOR, he doesn't have time to waste with spell checkers or dicktionaries and is way to busy actually producing art, and not sitting around on his ass dreaming.

I forgive you, I have no reason to hate you, however explain this...

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Originally Posted by Visionary7
Do not call anyone Rabbi, for you only have one master, Do not call anyone Teacher, for only you have one Teacher, who is the Christ

Who has the wisdom to answer this? How can I speak in such a manner if I did not have the gift of the Holy Spirit, though the world did not know him?

DinoStoned

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You are just making unsubstantiated claims, which everyone can do. Holy spirits do not factor into the equation. For example :

John 4.15
For example If anyone acknowlegdes that Jesus is the son of God. God lives in him and he in God..

Care to refute nicely? How I could make an unsubstantiated claim, if God says I acklnowledge him' then Christ lives in me and me in him.

So on my Jesus evidence my claims are very well credible...However with your case(s) they are not....

Can courteously I ask why or the possible reasons you claim Christ does not exist?

your friend,v7

Visionary7 · 07-22-2004, 05:34 AM

And the rest of y'all, I have to go work..

I will kindly respond to your statements and questions when I have time.

Until we meet again, Infidels..

(Unless Jesus raptures me ofc)

DinoStoned · 07-22-2004, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Visionary7

John 4.15
For example If anyone acknowlegdes that Jesus is the son of God. God lives in him and he in God..

Care to refute nicely? How I could make an unsubstantiated claim, if God says I acklnowledge him' then Christ lives in me and me in him.

So on my Jesus evidence my claims are very well credible...However with your case(s) they are not....

Can courteously I ask why or the possible reasons you claim Christ does not exist?

your friend,v7

Whee, circular logic! The Bible says that God exists and it cannot be wrong. Why? Because God inspired the Bible to be written in the first place! Therefore God exists.

But as we all know, cyclical reasoning will get you nowhere nearer the truth. Listen: The people you are arguing with do not believe in the inerrancy of the Bible. To us, the Bible is a work of mortals, prone to mistakes and falsehoods. If you try to prove that your claims for Jesus's divinity using the Bible, it would be like us proving Darwin's theory of evolution entirely using the 'Origin of Species'.

Furthermore, I do not claim that Jesus Christ, as a person, does not exist. What I claim is that God does not exist. To me, God and Jesus Christ are 2 entirely different entities.

Anyway... our views are too different for us to ever be able to understand what the other's stand is, plus my skull is at least as hard as yours, so it is futile for this argument to continue, I guess.

I wonder if your boss will dock your pay if you get raptured during work.

Agnostic Theist · 07-22-2004, 12:59 PM

Can courteously I ask why or the possible reasons you claim Christ does not exist?

Rules of english aside, I think I can sum up what all the atheists here are thinking in three words, viz.,

Logic

Contradictions

Lack of proof

Visionary7 · 07-25-2004, 11:29 AM

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Here's a hint: what you call "worldly wisdom" other people call logic, reason, and common sense. If you can't justify your God on that basis, it doesn't mean you can't believe in him or her. But it does mean that you have no business pretending to try to convince other people by argument.

the wisdom of the wise
the intelligence of the intelligence
I will frustrate.

EverLastingGodStopper · 07-25-2004, 01:02 PM

"Haiku-poems consist of respectively 5, 7 and 5 syllables in three units. In japanese, this convention is a must, but in english, which has variation in the length of syllables, this can sometimes be difficult."

Agnostic Theist · 07-26-2004, 03:41 AM

What's happening here?
What's this about haiku?
It's not on topic!

Betcha can't get a whole page of haiku-style posts (completely compliant to the rules) AND keep it relevant to the topic

chapka · 07-26-2004, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Visionary7

the wisdom of the wise
the intelligence of the intelligence
I will frustrate.

Your point being?

The verse you quote does not respond to my post, especially quoted out of context and with no indication of source which would allow us to check the context. Paraphrased, what you're saying is, "My God can kick your ass." Which is preaching, which is inappropriate on this forum.

Again, if you want to argue, argue. If you must quote The Bible, explain your quotation and why you feel it is applicable.

Again, I pointed out that "what you call 'worldly wisdom' other people call logic, reason, and common sense. If you can't justify your God on that basis, it doesn't mean you can't believe in him or her. But it does mean that you have no business pretending to try to convince other people by argument."

Do you have a response? Or are you conceding my point?

blt to go · 07-26-2004, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chapka

Do you have a response? Or are you conceding my point?

Minor quibble. I think that should read:

Do you have answer?
Are you conceding my point?
What is your response?

chapka · 07-26-2004, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by blt to go

Minor quibble. I think that should read:

Do you have answer?
Are you conceding my point?
What is your response?

My apologies;
This is "Elsewhere," after all.
I stand corrected.

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07-22-2004, 05:34 AM	#122
Visionary7 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: -World Forum (Int'l)- Posts: 712	And the rest of y'all, I have to go work.. I will kindly respond to your statements and questions when I have time. Until we meet again, Infidels.. (Unless Jesus raptures me ofc)

07-22-2004, 12:59 PM	#124
Agnostic Theist Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Posts: 4,822	Can courteously I ask why or the possible reasons you claim Christ does not exist? Rules of english aside, I think I can sum up what all the atheists here are thinking in three words, viz., Logic Contradictions Lack of proof

07-25-2004, 01:02 PM	#126
EverLastingGodStopper Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16,665	"Haiku-poems consist of respectively 5, 7 and 5 syllables in three units. In japanese, this convention is a must, but in english, which has variation in the length of syllables, this can sometimes be difficult."

07-26-2004, 03:41 AM	#127
Agnostic Theist Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Posts: 4,822	What's happening here? What's this about haiku? It's not on topic! Betcha can't get a whole page of haiku-style posts (completely compliant to the rules) AND keep it relevant to the topic

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