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Old 03-21-2011, 09:25 AM   #11
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The default position for the existence of exaggerated ancient personages, especially man-gods is that they are fictional.
So, feel free to develop your mythicist Christology. All I've seen so far on this makes the Book of Revelation look like a physics textbook.
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So, feel free to develop your mythicist Christology. All I've seen so far on this makes the Book of Revelation look like a physics textbook.
I am neutral on the mythicist issue, but over the past several years at this forum, you have been much more certain than you ought to be regarding what Jesus said, and where he got his information from.
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I am neutral on the mythicist issue, but over the past several years at this forum, you have been much more certain than you ought to be regarding what Jesus said, and where he got his information from.
What I ought to be? I thought you skeptics were all hopped up about the naturalistic fallacy?
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What does the naturalistic fallacy have to do with a lack of skepticism in trusting ancient texts? :huh:
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All kidding aside, I think you mean that I have been more certain than I have any rational reason to be. It’s fine by me that you should think so. I’m just saying that the mythicist Christologies that I have seen are manifestly absurd.
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I am neutral on the mythicist issue, but over the past several years at this forum, you have been much more certain than you ought to be regarding what Jesus said, and where he got his information from.
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What I ought to be? I thought you skeptics were all hopped up about the naturalistic fallacy?
What naturalistic fallacy are you talking about?

Do you believe that Jesus said most of what the Gospels say that he said? If so, why?

How do you define the word "skeptic"?
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Do you believe that Jesus said most of what the Gospels say that he said? If so, why?
Because of the nature of the culture, which was founded on the faithful transmission of the sayings of its spiritual leaders. Also, the sayings are generally all of a piece, revealing a self-consistent personality. (Let me pre-empt all the blather of how the sayings are self-contradictory: unity is found in the forcefulness of the expressions and their connectness to the overarching theme of a man's relationship with the Absolute, with himself, and with others.)
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Let's stick to the topic, please.
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Do you believe that Jesus said most of what the Gospels say that he said? If so, why?
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Because of the nature of the culture, which was founded on the faithful transmission of the sayings of its spiritual leaders. Also, the sayings are generally all of a piece, revealing a self-consistent personality. (Let me pre-empt all the blather of how the sayings are self-contradictory: unity is found in the forcefulness of the expressions and their connectness to the overarching theme of a man's relationship with the Absolute, with himself, and with others.)
Please start a new thread at the Abrahamic Religions forum regarding what you said. If you do, please include evidence that God provided Jesus with his information, and that Jesus' teachings are more important and trustworthy than that all other historical teachings.
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Please start a new thread at the Abrahamic Religions forum regarding what you said.
Isn't it more fun to read about all the mythicist Christologies than about some poor Palestinian schmuck who got done up right proper for having a big mouth?
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