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Old 01-16-2004, 01:14 AM   #1
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Default If blacks DON'T want to be viewed...

as inferior then they should GET THEIR SHIT TOGETHER!!

Stop blaming whitey!!

MONEY is what makes the world go around! Black communities EVERYWHERE need a solid economic FOUNDATION in which to uild their societies!!

This is the ONLY way in which they'd prosper!!!!!!
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Old 01-16-2004, 01:34 AM   #2
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Go to www.dogfart.com and tell me those blacks feel inferior

(warning the site is not for the faint hearted).

Maybe it is you who feels inferior? Why this constant bleating about blacks?

You have to understand that it takes more than one or two generations of equality to balance things out, it doesn't happen overnight, and memories of the negative will always outlast any positives.

What was your point again?
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Old 01-16-2004, 01:56 AM   #3
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I feel inferior to NO ONE!!

But blacks ARE the poorest and DISADVATANGED people in the world!!

Only a FOOL would say they SHOULDN'T get their shit together!! Complaining about 'past bigotry' cannot help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Which Blacks?

Australian Aborigines are among the poorest in the world, so are South African tribes, but the causes are vastly different, and neither would appreciate being lumped into the same group simply because of skin colour.

I don't think that Central Americans or South East Asians are doing too well either.

You missed my point, it isn't the complaints of past bigotry it's the actual effects of such that still permeate down through generations.

You can say "stop bitching and get on with it" as much as you like, but when your parents weren't classed as citizens, or were in ghetto's, or had to ride a seperate bus you cannot expect that resentment to just dissapear. Jews are still allowed to bitch and moan about the Holocaust, but now that we are finally being treated as citizens we have to shut our mouths and move on?People have long memories and it doesn't help to have people such as yourself now turn around and say you now have no one to blame but yourselves.

My mother wasn't allowed to vote, wasn't considered a citizen in her own country until a few years before I was born, try to imagine how that feels.

Blacks in America had it easy compared to us Aussie Blacks I can assure you. And while I hate this "blame whitey" mentality I at least have the intelligence to understand where it comes from.

Yes "Blacks" need to get their shit together, and I believe that in most places in the western world they are. Certainly doing better than 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago and so on.

Stop blaming the general populace for a few outspoken idiots, or stupid government initiatives that only foster hate from all the poor whites who can't get their shit together either.

And stop lumping all "Blacks" into one group, again I ask which Blacks?
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I'm referring to Africans and those of African descent!!

Black Africans and 'aboriginies' from Australia are different races!!!!
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If "whites" view black people as inferior, the problem is not with the black people. It is with the "white people" and their view.

Maybe, "white" people should be the first to get their "shit together."

I put the word "white" in quotation, because I have seen the enormous progress the whites has taken in race relationship. (e.g. 300 Chinese descent working in Nasa, that's a big risk to take especially after the numerous spying charges.)

So this "white" meritocrat is referring to may just be a minority.
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I'm referring to Africans and those of African descent!!
Please show me some facts on how British "Blacks" are worse off or view themselves as less than British "Asians" (just so you understand I mean Pakis and Curry Munchers OK?)

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Black Africans and 'aboriginies' from Australia are different races!!!!
No shit sherlock, but when you use a definition that can mean around 1/4 of the world's population perhaps you should be more specific.

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I pity you, just slightly more for being part of a failing Empire than your arrogance.
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I pity you, just slightly more for being part of a failing Empire than your arrogance.
You're a better man than I, all I can feel is contempt for the wilful ignorance being so arrogantly displayed.

I agree that the disintegration of a failing empire can be a profoundly ugly sight.
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Don't underestimate the impact of the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X.

It was fucking dangerous to be a black leader with your shit together, at least in America. I don't think those shocks have faded completely. Remember that was only 35-40 years ago.
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I agree that the disintegration of a failing empire can be a profoundly ugly sight.
No, you backwater colonial fools! We're still relevant! The sun will never set on the British Empire! God save the Queen, and all who sail in her! *waves flag furiously*

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