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Old 11-28-2010, 03:25 PM   #11
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I think Hindus are monistic. Though the theists among them would claim to be monotheistic, and their own pet favorite God would be the sole supreme deity.
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It's like monotheism is advanced, and polytheists are primitive, so you better be a monotheist if you want to be cool.
Well, everybody wants to be cool. But I think that is the case: polytheism is usually part of more primitive cultures, while monotheism is part of more advanced ones. Certainly the trend seems to go from polytheism to monotheism. I'm not aware of it going the other way anywhere. And if you like, perhaps as cultures advance, the natural trend would be from polytheism to monotheism and then on to atheism. Wouldn't that be cool?

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One god, many gods - they're all delusions.
Yes, but monotheism is part of a more advanced delusion.
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:49 PM   #13
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I don't understand this obsession with monotheism. Modern day Hindus claim to be really monotheistic, because all of their gods are just aspects of the divine.

It's like monotheism is advanced, and polytheists are primitive, so you better be a monotheist if you want to be cool.

One god, many gods - they're all delusions.


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I don't see any Biblical History or Criticism here...
This is a criticism of Christianity, if you agree that the Trinity is a Biblical concept.

Christianity has always claimed to be a monotheistic religion, which it's clearly not. Yet its claim has always been assumed to be a given (except by Jews and Muslims).

It gets away with it simply by saying the three distinct Supernatural Persons it worships are somehow one god. Mind you, it doesn't pretend they are three manifestations of one god, or three parts of one god, but three distinct Persons. They're three gods!

That's called polytheism, and Christianity has somehow gotten away with it.
If we are created in the image of God than God is procreated by us and from there it is a matter of realization that we are God for which the Trinity must, and will collapse with the convegeance of the twain after which the HS is redundant and might as well descend, to say that in heaven, where the celestial sea is no longer, there is no need for the HS. So the Trinity exist only for as long as we are in oblivion and for them to discredit Christianity as polytheistic shows that they just do not understand and still worship the ancient God who must be stepping on his beard by now.
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Old 11-28-2010, 07:33 PM   #15
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It is a given in Arabic culture and literature that the polytheistic age in Arabia was an age of darkness and ignorance. In fact, their history books refer to it as "Age of Ignorance" as casually as we refer to the era before Jesus as "B.C.".

Certain aspects of that perspective were challenged by some Arab scholars, one of whom wrote a book about some "Age of Ignorance" poems that were superior linguistically to the Quran itself (I think his name was Taha Hussein), along with a full literary analysis. He was considered a heretic of course, but he had already attained too high an intellectual status to be dismissed entirely.

Anyway, one of the marks of the Age of Ignorance was, you guessed it, polytheism. With a mocking smile on their faces, teachers tell generations of students in the Arab world that Arabs before Islam were so laughably ignorant before Mohammad, they actually thought multiple gods existed!
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Actually, the Trinity is not a Biblical concept, and not all criticism of Christianity is Biblical Criticism. There is a forum called Abrahamic Religions that might be more appropriate - unless you want to tie this to Christian history.
....tend to agree. I don't see how this has anything to do with Biblical History or Biblical criticism.

The concept of the Trinity is not even found in the Bible - only the precursors upon which the idea eventually was based is found there, and since there is no discussion of those precursors in this thread....off to Abrahamic religions is my vote.

(don't worry Zed, it's not ~elsewhere~, just a more appropriate subforum)
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Old 11-29-2010, 04:20 AM   #17
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The thread is about the monotheism club. Monotheism is a Biblical concept. Jesus was accused of equating himself to God, according to the Bible. So the first monotheistic clash with Christianity happened in the Bible. Perhaps this entire subforum shouldn't exist, and everything in it should be moved to Abrahamic Religions.
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It is a given in Arabic culture and literature that the polytheistic age in Arabia was an age of darkness and ignorance. In fact, their history books refer to it as "Age of Ignorance" as casually as we refer to the era before Jesus as "B.C.".

Certain aspects of that perspective were challenged by some Arab scholars, one of whom wrote a book about some "Age of Ignorance" poems that were superior linguistically to the Quran itself (I think his name was Taha Hussein), along with a full literary analysis. He was considered a heretic of course, but he had already attained too high an intellectual status to be dismissed entirely.

Anyway, one of the marks of the Age of Ignorance was, you guessed it, polytheism. With a mocking smile on their faces, teachers tell generations of students in the Arab world that Arabs before Islam were so laughably ignorant before Mohammad, they actually thought multiple gods existed!
Kind of like our age of Enlightenment when our world became flat and to this day do not understand Elizabethan or later Romantic poetry and now think that there is no God and that the Trinity is a sham.
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Actually, the Trinity is not a Biblical concept, and not all criticism of Christianity is Biblical Criticism. There is a forum called Abrahamic Religions that might be more appropriate - unless you want to tie this to Christian history.
....tend to agree. I don't see how this has anything to do with Biblical History or Biblical criticism.

The concept of the Trinity is not even found in the Bible - only the precursors upon which the idea eventually was based is found there, and since there is no discussion of those precursors in this thread....off to Abrahamic religions is my vote.

(don't worry Zed, it's not ~elsewhere~, just a more appropriate subforum)
The word Trinity may not be in the bible but the collapse of what has become known as the Trinity is when the father and the son became one in Luke and with that the dove descended and Jesus rattled off his own lineage, which so was inspired as opposed to "recorded" in Matthew.
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I'm sure many advocates of the Trinity would draw on Biblical quotes for support. Does Tertullian? (I know, I know, I should do my own research..)
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