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extremophile · 05-14-2004, 11:05 PM

Am I dreaming or I've really read here, somewhere in this forum, that someone had writen a list with short descriptions of lots of violence and cruelty in nature, such as that thing that Charles Darwin said about a wasp that put their eggs in some other animal when they're still alive, and then the eggs hatch, and the wasps larvae eat the still alive animal?

Jet Black · 05-14-2004, 11:15 PM

it's true I tell you!

http://iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=84741

ceinwyn · 05-14-2004, 11:58 PM

Also, animals eat other animals. Sometimes it's all bloody and there's ripping and rending of flesh. Sorry.

Peez · 05-15-2004, 07:01 AM

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ceinwyn:
Also, animals eat other animals. Sometimes it's all bloody and there's ripping and rending of flesh. Sorry.

What is there to be sorry about?

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We all enter this world in the same way: naked; screaming; soaked in blood. But if you live your life right, that kind of thing doesn't have to stop there.

Dana Gould

Peez

WinAce · 05-15-2004, 09:55 AM

I'm glad you liked my parody, Organisms that Look Designed, enough to remember it and ask for it, extremophile. On a related note, you may also want to check out Oolon Colluphid's Guide to Creation and Edward Babinski's Why We Believe in a Designer! (although unlike mine, as far as I know, those don't have all the cute and attention-retaining parasite graphics).

And personally, I'd prefer being naked, screaming and soaked in something other than blood.

Occams_Razor · 05-15-2004, 10:10 AM

I think this is what you are referring to:

"I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Icheumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars."

~Charles Darwin~

"Their larvae are either parasitic or predators. Most caterpillar are targeted host. Some species attacked other insects and spiders. The female wasp usually locates the food plants of the host then searches with her antennae for a suitable host. The female usually has the long ovipositor which is used to insert eggs into the host body."

http://www.geocities.com/brisbane_wa...NEUMONIDAE.htm

extremophile · 05-15-2004, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WinAce

I'm glad you liked my parody, Organisms that Look Designed, enough to remember it and ask for it, extremophile. On a related note, you may also want to check out Oolon Colluphid's Guide to Creation and Edward Babinski's Why We Believe in a Designer! (although unlike mine, as far as I know, those don't have all the cute and attention-retaining parasite graphics).

And personally, I'd prefer being naked, screaming and soaked in something other than blood.

Yeah, that's what I was looking for! I had also seen once the "god's mistakes" but I've lost the bookmark

extremophile · 05-15-2004, 11:21 AM

Hey, in the page of "Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes", I've not found the lethal genes in genetics or anywhere else. Intended to be a demographic growth controller, or maybe to mantain a certain aesthetic proportion pattern in mices, of 2 yellows for each black, rather than the expected 3/1.

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extremophile Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 45	Intellingent design of cruelty Am I dreaming or I've really read here, somewhere in this forum, that someone had writen a list with short descriptions of lots of violence and cruelty in nature, such as that thing that Charles Darwin said about a wasp that put their eggs in some other animal when they're still alive, and then the eggs hatch, and the wasps larvae eat the still alive animal?

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05-14-2004, 11:15 PM	#2
Jet Black Contributor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: (GSV) Lasting Damage Posts: 10,734	it's true I tell you! http://iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=84741

05-14-2004, 11:58 PM	#3
ceinwyn Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 254	Also, animals eat other animals. Sometimes it's all bloody and there's ripping and rending of flesh. Sorry.

05-15-2004, 09:55 AM	#5
WinAce Beloved Deceased Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Carrboro, NC Posts: 1,539	I'm glad you liked my parody, Organisms that Look Designed, enough to remember it and ask for it, extremophile. On a related note, you may also want to check out Oolon Colluphid's Guide to Creation and Edward Babinski's Why We Believe in a Designer! (although unlike mine, as far as I know, those don't have all the cute and attention-retaining parasite graphics). And personally, I'd prefer being naked, screaming and soaked in something other than blood.

05-15-2004, 10:10 AM	#6
Occams_Razor Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 664	I think this is what you are referring to: "I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Icheumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars." ~Charles Darwin~ "Their larvae are either parasitic or predators. Most caterpillar are targeted host. Some species attacked other insects and spiders. The female wasp usually locates the food plants of the host then searches with her antennae for a suitable host. The female usually has the long ovipositor which is used to insert eggs into the host body." http://www.geocities.com/brisbane_wa...NEUMONIDAE.htm

05-15-2004, 11:21 AM	#8
extremophile Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 45	Hey, in the page of "Some More of God's Greatest Mistakes", I've not found the lethal genes in genetics or anywhere else. Intended to be a demographic growth controller, or maybe to mantain a certain aesthetic proportion pattern in mices, of 2 yellows for each black, rather than the expected 3/1.

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