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Old 07-13-2006, 12:59 AM   #11
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Good work! Just one inclusion I would like to see, the tentative dates of the birth of Jesus relative to the the Exile.
The problem is that the Bible simply doesn't give many post-exilic dates at all. Some can probably be gleaned from the Prophets, but there is basically a huge gap.

The writers of the Torah (well, one of them anyway) and the Deuteronomic History were date-obsessed and bridge gaps for us - for example the gap between Joseph and Moses has no "begat"s in it, but the writer helpfully tells us in Ex 12:20 that the Exodus was 430 years after the Israelites arrived in Egypt, and the gap between Moses's death and David's ascension to the throne where the "regnal" lengths of the Judges are not given, but the writer helpfully tells us in 1 Kings 6:1 that the Temple was built 480 years after the Exodus.

Unfortunately, none of the Gospel writers had this obsession, so none of them tell us anything unambiguous like "Jesus was born in the 600th year after the Exile" or anything like that. Instead, they choose to place the event based on external events (the death of Herod and the Quirinius census). This means that we are forced to use external events as a guide to when things allegedly happened, rather than the "inerrant" text of the Bible itself.
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Thanks for the info people. I'm really keen on developing a comparison chart between the timelines proposed by modern Christian/Jewish fundamentalists and those proposed by mainstream archeologists. I know it's going to take a while but I really am interested in finding where they mainly diverge other than in the geology and evolution realms (i.e the bible says this king from civilisation X was in power at this time but all mainstream archeologists say he was in power during a different time).


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Great chart and thanx for your work. I wonder if, in addition to the dates running from 0 and the creation you could insert a second set of dates using our dating system. This would help to see how the alleged Biblical dates fit with actual historical events (as you pointed out above with the Flood and the Egyptian 4th dynasty.

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Pervy:

Great chart and thanx for your work. I wonder if, in addition to the dates running from 0 and the creation you could insert a second set of dates using our dating system. This would help to see how the alleged Biblical dates fit with actual historical events (as you pointed out above with the Flood and the Egyptian 4th dynasty.

It's already there. Column 5 shows the assumed BC date of the event - assuming that the date of the Exile is fixed at 597 BCE and back-calculating from there.
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I don't think there is a single "Official" list. The most famous one is that developed by Bishop James Ussher, and is known as the Ussher-Lightfoot Calender.

As for differences between these dates and the dates given by mainstream dating, the problem is that most of the events in the Bible simply cannot be dated by mainstream dating since there is no evidence for them that can be dated (and indeed, in many cases there is actively evidence that they cannot have happened at all).
Did you use the Masoretic, Septuagint or Samartian versions for your timeline?
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Did you use the Masoretic, Septuagint or Samartian versions for your timeline?
Masoretic. That should be obvious from the dates/ages that I use.
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