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Old 09-14-2005, 05:59 PM   #101
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You post here under your own name. Spin can play this game becuase he does not.
This little fizzer is written by someone who doesn't post here under his own name.

It is only the evidence which counts. You can't run away from the fact. You can't shift the boundaries. You either deal with the evidence or you have little useful to say.


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Old 09-14-2005, 06:14 PM   #102
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Chris take step back for a minute. Don't you realise Spin is just playing a game?

I pointed out Aramaic words in the greek NT. Spin then starts to play a game.
He will try to pretend they are not Aramaic words.
No, judge, not necessarily, and this shows your lack of comprehension.

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He makes a fool of you, or perhaps you make one of yourself.
If I were you, I really wouldn't be talking.

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Are you really thinking they are not Aramaic?
Which words, judge? In fact, spin pointed out words that you didn't mention that were specifically Aramaic.

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dance, little boy, dance.

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More the fool you. You post here under your own name. Spin can play this game becuase he does not.
Are you really saying this? And your parents named you Judge, right?

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I point to Aramaic words he just claims they are not.
It's about logically why certain words have the suggestion that they have. As spin pointed out, libanos predates the Aramaic influence on the region, especially since the word was used in Hebrew. Here is a random website from the web (Christian, no doubt) that shows you the verses. Spin, it's painfully obvious you don't do any prior research on the subject, you merely spout and spittle these defunct arguments over and over again. If anything, it is you who are playing the game.

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Old 09-14-2005, 07:10 PM   #103
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A good reference for Biblical flat-earthism is Robert J. Schadewald's "The Flat-Earth Bible". The Bible's writers are not very interested in cosmology, so one has to work out their views from the various allusions they make. However, the noncanonical work 1 Enoch goes into much more detail:

The Earth is flat
The sky is a bowl overhead
The celestial bodies enter and exit the sky bowl at ground-level gates
The celestial bodies all move independently
Celestial bodies that dawdle get jailed
Not so. I would say that Gen 1-3 has nothing to do with the creation of the planet earth but that it is the place where we come full circle when we come full circle and thus without this beginning it is impossible to come full circle. That is to say, if life has a meaning we must be able to arrive at that end and if we do, we will arrive at the place we first started and know it as if for the first time.

In our mythology this would be the book of Genesis where unstructured space is the beginning and where it also is the end for the examined life. This would be the reason why in the new heaven and new earth the sea is no longer (Rev.21:1).

As I see it, it was about 6000 years ago that 'this' ancient goat herder (for all I care) did come full circle and decided to write his own story (this makes him a myth maker) wherein he exposed the beginning of the journey of life and tied it to land, water and sky. Knowledge is called water and data is land. Dry land is something we can 'stand' on because it is rationally ours. It is flat because it is only ours as opposed to the heavens (plural) that is ours via the incarnation process (our heritage is 'water' by which we are predestined) but is not rationally ours until we come full circle. To get there we must learn to walk on water and when it becomes solid (rationally ours) we will have arrived in the new heaven and earth where the sea is no longer, obviously not because that is where heaven is at.

Gen 1 describes the metaphysics of this plan, Gen 2 the physics and in Gen 3 we enter upon this journey ourselves.

But I'll stop here.
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Day 7: God was so happy with what he had done that he took the first day off in the history of the Universe
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Spin, it's painfully obvious you don't do any prior research on the subject, you merely spout and spittle these defunct arguments over and over again. If anything, it is you who are playing the game.

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Freudian slip?
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Which words, judge? In fact, spin pointed out words that you didn't mention that were specifically Aramaic.

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Actually Chris I apologise for insinuating you were a fool. The problem is mine not yours.
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Freudian slip?
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You said "spin" but apparently intended "judge".
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Alas, it was a typo. I believe I was going to mention something about spin, but I ferget. Apologies, spin.

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