Chili

and when he became a Christian he was no longer a Jew.

So why would Catholics want to remain Catholic when they become Christian?

For Jesus Judiasm had to end and Judas be hung after the secret of his mandate was brought into the open (when he spilled his guts).

The same is true for Catholicism when understanding brings relief to faith and this is the time when we come to realize that it was a game and was no more than just a game towards understanding of who we really. "Who we really are" is discovered when we spend the second half of our life in the "Thousand Year Reign" which is located [behind the "green wall"] on the other side of the great divide in our own mind.

Cubeless Academian

There is no record of Jesus renouncing his Judaism, and I don't think it even makes sense to talk about him "becoming a Christian." Did he worship himself, or what?

Let me guess.... because Catholicism is a branch of Christianity? Why would anyone want to be Catholic if he weren't Christian?

Judas committed suicide; it wasn't Jesus' decision. And what does Judas's death have to do with the end of Judaism? This is based on what? Judas's name?

What's a game? What "green wall"? In short, what the hell are you talking about? I can't make head or tail of this post.

mrmoderate

You got more out of the OP than I did cubeless.

Jesus was a faithful Jew till His last breath. The Catholic Church is responsible for trying to take the Jewishness away from Jesus.

Jesus is the fulfillment of the Jewish faith. Todays Jews are outcasts who refuse to accept the prophecies of the Hebrew Testament. All other Jews in the time of Jesus went into Christianity as the fulfilment of the Jewish prophesies.

Jesus was and always will be Jewish. Christians should be following Jesus's actions in commemorating Passover, not Easter, and the other Jewish holidays rather than Christmas. Easter and Christmas are Catholic pagan entries into the Christian faith.

abe smith

"What is "a Jew"?" = "Whaddye mean, 'a Jew"?"
"Who decided that 'Jesus was a Jew'?"

Not only that; what is the source of any certainty you (O Poster) have, that "Jesus was."?

My this-qy is addresst to both posters here so-far.

Chili

How about "the Temple Ruckus?"

How about "my time has not yet come" and later "it is finished" after which time he was no longer addressed as Jesus but as Christ only.Catholics created Christianity which is based upon the spiritual insight of Peter the first Pope and because of this insight the Church has been 'rolling' ever since.

There is only one branch of Christianity and that is reserved for those hell and these most certainly want to go to heaven when they die (and I can see why). These would be those who have been made lukewarm and can't seem to finish the race. Catholics, on the other hand are "cold" and there is nothing wrong with that except in the eyes of those who have been made lukewarm (just ask Billy Graham -- from a distance or he'll get you too).Judas was an apostle and these were the eiditic images (helpers) of Jesus.
It's an either-or thing. Either it is all metaphysics or none of it is.Life's a journey and religion is a game we play to keep us moving along.

The Green Wall is the divide in our own mind, or the Gate to Paradise which is often symbolized by the virginity of Mary. It's the Green Wall in Zamjatin's "WE" and "if you ever would glance beyond that wall you would be dazzled and close your eyes-yes-."

Chili

Best thing they ever did and that makes Judaism a worth-while religion wherein heaven can be reached.Yes he was a Jew and Catholics are Jews by adoption in that both are looking towards the coming of Christ in their own life. For Jews it will be the first and for Catholics it will be the second coming. Christmass and Easter are Catholic because of the example that was given to us by Jesus wherefore we celebrate these holy days and to celebrate Jewish holy days would be to deny the first coming of Christ . . . which is what made us Catholic to begin with.

There is no such thing as a Christian religion or there would be temples in the New Jerusalem. In this sense is it wise not think protestant when evaluating Catholicism because these two are opposite to each other.

Chili

He must have been a Jew because in those days only Jews could get to heaven. The evidence we have for this is that we are the grafted branches into the same root and we get to heaven all the time. :wave:

mrmoderate

Chili, you got some screwed up thoughts on Christianity and the Jewish race.

The temple episode had nothing to do with Jesus defying the Jewish faith or His becoming non-Jewish. Jesus was cleaning house of the riff-raff that was allowed to profit in the temple.

The Catholic Church did not invent Christianity, it bastardized Christianity. Christianity was a thriving faith centuries before Constantine begrudgingly combined Christianity with the Roman Empire.

The covenant of Abraham is a promise from God to all Jews who remain faithful to God. Through Jesus anyone of any race can be grafted into the covenant of Abraham, again, as long as they remain faithful to God through Jesus.

This is not really as complicated as most religions try to make it. Have faith in God and be with God after mortal death.

Chili

I would like to say "good luck" but I am afraid that even the best of luck won't get you there.

Rational BAC

Jesus was born a Jew, lived as a Jew and died a Jew. And was resurrected as a Jew.

I think anyone would have to engage in some serious self deception to dispute any of that. Whether Catholic or not.