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Overkill · 05-06-2007, 09:42 AM

The bible repeatedly states that it is one hundred percent pure, not one word is altered or should be added or taken out, that every word is useful for teaching. 1 percent error is 1 percent too much error.
If someone offered you a slice of pie that had a couple bits of horseshit in it would you eat it?
Come on, don't be such a baby, its almost 99 percent pie!:Cheeky:

jgibson000 · 05-06-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Overkill

The bible repeatedly states that it is one hundred percent pure,

Where does "the Bible" say this at all, let alone repeatedly?

JG

Nazaroo · 05-06-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Riverwind

No offense, Nazaroo, but when I originally brought the topic up on the thread that you mention, you told me it was off-topic and I'd have to bring it up elsewhere.

I would prefer that you just answer the question here instead of redirecting me again. Regardless of your interest in discussing the issue, this makes it seem like a reluctance to address the issue.

Threads go slightly off-topic at times...unavoidable with so many possible side-tangents. Actually, that seems to be what keeps some threads alive over time. So, please go ahead and address the issue here since it has been brought up. If not, I wouldn't mind creating a thread specifically for the issue if you will respond in it.

I'd be delighted to discuss this here or anywhere, but wouldn't that be hijacking someone else's thread? If the moderators and other posters don't object, then neither do I. But its not entirely up to me.

For the moment, I am trying to follow the forum rules concerning topic. But perhaps a moderator or someone will want to comment.

Riverwind · 05-06-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nazaroo

I'd be delighted to discuss this here or anywhere, but wouldn't that be hijacking someone else's thread? If the moderators and other posters don't object, then neither do I. But its not entirely up to me.

For the moment, I am trying to follow the forum rules concerning topic. But perhaps a moderator or someone will want to comment.

Ok, here you go. Rather than putting it off on the moderators to decide, I've created a thread that is specifically to discuss this issue. Enjoy.

For Nazoo: "Text-Critical Marks" in P66 and Sinaiticus

Toto · 05-06-2007, 03:50 PM

A number of posts relating to Bart Ehrman have been split off here

Iacchus · 05-06-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FatherMithras

It's bullshit and they made it up.

What, the whole thing? :huh:

Iacchus · 05-06-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gullwind

The thing is, even if its true, all it means is that a lot of people were careful when they made copies. It says nothing about the truth of what the writings were about. It sounds good, especially if you're already a believer, but it really doesn't mean what they use it for.

There are millions of copies of The Lord of the Rings floating around, probably a lot more than 99% identical, but that doesn't prove that Frodo and Gandalf really existed.

Well, at least it helps alleviate the notion that a lot of distortions occurred after the fact ... so, that if there is any truth to it, we may in fact be that much closer to that which was actually said. I find that to be quite helpful myself.

Iacchus · 05-06-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Overkill

The bible repeatedly states that it is one hundred percent pure, not one word is altered or should be added or taken out, that every word is useful for teaching. 1 percent error is 1 percent too much error.
If someone offered you a slice of pie that had a couple bits of horseshit in it would you eat it?
Come on, don't be such a baby, its almost 99 percent pie!:Cheeky:

Oh baloney! Does that mean that 99 percent of the books we find in today's classrooms are unfit for teaching as well? I have heard (in some other forum) that these books are chock full of errors.

Overkill · 05-06-2007, 05:35 PM

No, but then again these books don't proclaim that they are the flawless teachings of an omnimax God.
And here is a place where the Bible says it is neither to be edited or added to, that it is the word of God, and that every word is useful.
Revelation 22:18-19, NIV
"18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book."
2 Peter 1:21"For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." Hmm, interesting, its okay for the Holy Spirit to breath out inaccuracies, as long as the inaccuracies are supposedly in the single digits.
2 Timothy 3:16
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness..." All of it except that one percent inaccurate part, right?

Boro Nut · 05-06-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hatsoff

The New Testament is 99% textually accurate...?
This statistic is often presented on apologetics websites and message boards. Does anyone know where it originally came from?

I believe the statistic of 99% was first used in Domestos adverts in relation to killing a proportion of all known household germs. It proved so successful that other statisticians began to use it more widely thereafter.

In 1994 Domestos lost a multi-million pound test case when evidence was produced to show that rather embarrassingly, Domestos actually caused surviving household germs to shoot from a mere 1% to a staggering 100% of household germs, and the judge held it was unreasonable to expect the public to know them all. It's one reason why I brush my teeth with excrement.

Boro Nut

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05-06-2007, 09:42 AM	#51
Overkill Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,877	The bible repeatedly states that it is one hundred percent pure, not one word is altered or should be added or taken out, that every word is useful for teaching. 1 percent error is 1 percent too much error. If someone offered you a slice of pie that had a couple bits of horseshit in it would you eat it? Come on, don't be such a baby, its almost 99 percent pie!:Cheeky:

05-06-2007, 03:50 PM	#55
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	A number of posts relating to Bart Ehrman have been split off here

05-06-2007, 05:35 PM	#59
Overkill Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,877	No, but then again these books don't proclaim that they are the flawless teachings of an omnimax God. And here is a place where the Bible says it is neither to be edited or added to, that it is the word of God, and that every word is useful. Revelation 22:18-19, NIV "18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book." 2 Peter 1:21"For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." Hmm, interesting, its okay for the Holy Spirit to breath out inaccuracies, as long as the inaccuracies are supposedly in the single digits. 2 Timothy 3:16 "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness..." All of it except that one percent inaccurate part, right?

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