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Bobinius · 02-19-2005, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ExtraSense

do you "believe" in art?

do you 'believe' in logic?

The Great Speaker · 02-19-2005, 11:51 AM

Well I beleive in God...

I think it is good that there is such a thing as religion, because at certain times it can give people hope where as Atheism can not.

I don't think people who don't believe in God are insane, just as much as I hope Atheists don't think I am insane.

It is good that people think in different ways, for this is how new ideas arise.

The Great Speaker has spoken

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ExtraSense · 02-19-2005, 12:41 PM

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Except for that "doesn't correspond to reality" thing, but hey, we're not picky.

I think you are very wrong.
It corresponds to the reality in far more ways than it does not

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ExtraSense · 02-19-2005, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by beanheel

are then all religions equal as good ways to organize human world view?

Not at all, some are better than others, you know it.

Someone said he does not believe in religion. Do you know what was the meaning of believe in that context?

ExtraSense · 02-19-2005, 12:50 PM

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Which religion ? that of Cardinal Torquemada, or that of Bin Laden ? Please clarify.

Both do present a worldview, and it is much better than no worldview

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ExtraSense · 02-19-2005, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Great Speaker

I think it is good that there is such a thing as religion...

I agree, many great ideas came in the religious form, and there is no way to express them but in the religious form.

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xtramental · 02-19-2005, 01:29 PM

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Are anti-theists brain dead?

It starts with sarcasm. Excellent.

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I am not talking about mere atheists, who think that Nature can and do take care of itself without superficial entity - god.

It would have been good to specify who you were talking about.

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Religion is a way to organize human world view, and in many respects the best one of the invented so far.

Humans developed their own "world views", some of whom then felt a need to justify and enforce them via various fantasy-based rationales. There are better ways to organize and verify our "world views", science is our most discplined one.

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Those who are so afraid of it might have mental disability to get metaphora of the religion, and at least should be evaluated by a good psychiatrist.

Seeing no reason to accept, or choosing to reject, theism is not indication of fear. Presuming that this then indicates mental disability is your basic witch-hunting rationale.

trendkill · 02-19-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ExtraSense

I agree, many great ideas came in the religious form, and there is no way to express them but in the religious form.

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I don't know that that's true. Maybe religion just has a monopoly in certain areas because it's so politically powerful and socially-ingrained that other types of expression can't compete.

Corona688 · 02-19-2005, 02:37 PM

I thought your martian rockoid people were your schtick, but anyway:

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Originally Posted by ExtraSense

Both do present a worldview, and it is much better than no worldview

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You are correct in that atheism is not a worldview, but you are incorrect in thinking that atheists don't have a worldview. Go away, come back when you know something.

ExtraSense · 02-19-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by xtramental

There are better ways to organize and verify our "world views", science is our most discplined one...

Science is quite limited in what it can handle. And nowadays it is hijacked by pseudoscience; it is prone to corruption and political pressures

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The Great Speaker Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Great Britain Posts: 26	Well I beleive in God... I think it is good that there is such a thing as religion, because at certain times it can give people hope where as Atheism can not. I don't think people who don't believe in God are insane, just as much as I hope Atheists don't think I am insane. It is good that people think in different ways, for this is how new ideas arise. The Great Speaker has spoken :angel: :devil3:

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