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excreationist · 09-23-2003, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by Mediancat
It didn't get condor, but maybe this is why:

The first part where it says how it disagrees with your answers, would probably explain why it didn't guess it better.

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What the hell kind of plastic, backbone-free wimpy undead condors sold in boxes are THEY talking about?

Those things seem like information about condoms...

Maybe it associates things together that have similar spellings... though as lisarea pointed out, it doesn't like you choosing "condom" - probably because it supposedly isn't G rated - you're meant to register if you want to pick PG or R stuff.

Well I tried "condor"... it lost in 30 questions but its first suggestion after that was "condor". It previously guesses hawk, eagle and bald-eagle.
I didn't know much about condors, so that would make it hard for it to guess....

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Is it smaller than a loaf of bread? You said No, I say Yes.
Does it live in groups(gregarious)? You said Unknown, I say No.
Can you see it in a zoo? You said Unknown, I say Yes.
Does it live in the forest? You said Unknown, I say No.
Is it colorful? You said Probably, I say No.
Does it live in trees? You said Unknown, I say Probably.
Does it bring joy to people? You said Probably, I say No.
Does it eat fish? You said Unknown, I say No.
Can it be hunted? You said Unknown, I say Yes.
Does it have cash value? You said Probably, I say No.
Are there many different sorts of it? You said Probably, I say No.
Does it live near water? You said Unknown, I say No.
Can you smell it? You said Unknown, I say No.
Does it help accomplish tasks? You said No, I say Yes.
Can it be trained to obey commands? You said Unknown, I say No.
Can it be tamed? You said Unknown, I say No.

Like you, it also came up with some weird things:

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Can you play games with it? I say Yes.
Can it fit in an envelope? I say Yes.
Can it be used for recreation? I say Yes.
Is it man made? I say Yes.
Is it comforting? I say Yes.
Can you play with it? I say Yes.
Does it come in a box? I say Yes.
Is it manufactured? I say Yes.
Does it move? I say Doubtful.
Does it have eyes? I say No.
Would you use it daily? I say Yes.
Is it alive? I say Doubtful.
Can it be heard? I say No.
Was it invented? I say Yes.
Does a basketball player use it? I say Yes.
Was it ever alive? I say No.

They seem to describe a condom and it strongly contradicts many things that describe a condor.

Mediancat · 09-23-2003, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by nyj
I tried condor and it guessed vulture on Q.13

YEah, it guessed vulture for me as well. But that's not exactly the same . . . so I said they were close.

Of course, the AI also had a condor pegged as being smaller than a loaf of bread, which is ludicrous.

Rob aka Mediancat

excreationist · 09-23-2003, 08:58 PM

Mediancat:
I edit my last post...
I think I'll email the site about that. They say that you're supposed to just keep teaching it if says some wrong things, but I think that is a major bug rather than something that it can learn to correct by itself.

Mediancat · 09-23-2003, 09:04 PM

Also managed to completely stump them with roseate spoonbill.

Ex-creationist: Interesting. Main reason I picked a couple of birds was because I had a bird book on hand so I'd know I was giving out accurate info.

Maybe someone should try "condo" or "Condominium?"

And so to bed.

Rob aka Mediancat

lisarea · 09-23-2003, 09:06 PM

Just beat it on "a ball of twine" and "urine."

It thinks urine is a purebred dog, among other things.

Chicken Girl · 09-23-2003, 09:09 PM

The computer got "guinea pig" in 23? (I've forgotten the number already

) but it guessed "rabbit" on Q20.

edit: LOL, it got tampon in 20

Shpongle · 09-23-2003, 09:11 PM

I tried getting it to guess "shampoo". It took a guess at dishwashing liquid at Q19, shower gel at Q28, and soap at Q29.

Pretty close I guess.

catalyst · 09-23-2003, 09:15 PM

I beat it with terpenes, creatine, and pipette.

excreationist · 09-23-2003, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by lisarea
It did guess it, though. It said something like, "You guessed a bad thing..." but then it told me some crazy lies about condoms in that one fun facts section or whatever.

Maybe condoms are PG and it can let you pick PG objects - but you're got to endure a lecture if you do.

xorbie · 09-23-2003, 09:21 PM

It didn't get "a scientist" either, even though I thought I was pretty good with giving info.

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09-23-2003, 08:58 PM	#13
excreationist Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Australia Posts: 4,886	Mediancat: I edit my last post... I think I'll email the site about that. They say that you're supposed to just keep teaching it if says some wrong things, but I think that is a major bug rather than something that it can learn to correct by itself.

09-23-2003, 09:04 PM	#14
Mediancat Contributor Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Baltimore County, MD Posts: 19,644	Also managed to completely stump them with roseate spoonbill. Ex-creationist: Interesting. Main reason I picked a couple of birds was because I had a bird book on hand so I'd know I was giving out accurate info. Maybe someone should try "condo" or "Condominium?" And so to bed. Rob aka Mediancat

09-23-2003, 09:06 PM	#15
lisarea Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Broomfield, Colorado, USA Posts: 5,550	Just beat it on "a ball of twine" and "urine." It thinks urine is a purebred dog, among other things.

09-23-2003, 09:09 PM	#16
Chicken Girl Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: nowhere Posts: 6,549	The computer got "guinea pig" in 23? (I've forgotten the number already ) but it guessed "rabbit" on Q20. edit: LOL, it got tampon in 20

09-23-2003, 09:11 PM	#17
Shpongle Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Frozen North Posts: 9,920	I tried getting it to guess "shampoo". It took a guess at dishwashing liquid at Q19, shower gel at Q28, and soap at Q29. Pretty close I guess.

09-23-2003, 09:15 PM	#18
catalyst Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 6,158	I beat it with terpenes, creatine, and pipette.

09-23-2003, 09:21 PM	#20
xorbie Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Champaign, IL or Boston, MA Posts: 6,360	It didn't get "a scientist" either, even though I thought I was pretty good with giving info.

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