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Clivedurdle · 12-19-2009, 01:38 AM

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Mark written as an anti xian satire?

Hmmm....

Mark was very much included as one of the Tetrarchy of Gospels in the Constantine Codex Clivedurdle. Mark was one of the books Eusebius above describes as "the sacred matters of inspired teaching ".

According to Eusebius Mark was exposed to the most shameful ridicule
in the very theaters of the unbelievers. Who were these unbelievers?
They were the ancient Eastern Greek civilisation itself!!!!
What happened to the ancient Eastern Greek civilisation?
The Constantine Codex happened. Pythagoras and Euclid were no longer in favour with the New Guardian Class. A massive revolution was happening which is as yet only faintly understood. Christianity won the revolution, but the Greeks went down writing satire against it bigtime.

They were obviously out there performing satires aimed at Christianity in the Greek theatres. The texts of these satires I think are what we now call the non canonical acts and gospels of the NT. The canon came first, then it was satired --- as Eusebius discloses above.

The later Christian heresiological historians simply attempted to bury the controversy Christianity (ie: the Constantine Canon) had caused. This of course, also included the censorship of Julian's after words.

But are not the irony threads here showing that Mark is ironic and satirical?

Maybe Mark needs to be staged as a satirical play, with the audience laughing at everything. If this is possible, it shows its genre.

Clivedurdle · 12-19-2009, 01:40 AM

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the sacred matters of inspired teaching

Maybe we need to tear this veneer off the New Testament.

The Dagda · 12-19-2009, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Clivedurdle

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Originally Posted by mountainman

Mark was very much included as one of the Tetrarchy of Gospels in the Constantine Codex Clivedurdle. Mark was one of the books Eusebius above describes as "the sacred matters of inspired teaching ".

According to Eusebius Mark was exposed to the most shameful ridicule
in the very theaters of the unbelievers. Who were these unbelievers?
They were the ancient Eastern Greek civilisation itself!!!!
What happened to the ancient Eastern Greek civilisation?
The Constantine Codex happened. Pythagoras and Euclid were no longer in favour with the New Guardian Class. A massive revolution was happening which is as yet only faintly understood. Christianity won the revolution, but the Greeks went down writing satire against it bigtime.

They were obviously out there performing satires aimed at Christianity in the Greek theatres. The texts of these satires I think are what we now call the non canonical acts and gospels of the NT. The canon came first, then it was satired --- as Eusebius discloses above.

The later Christian heresiological historians simply attempted to bury the controversy Christianity (ie: the Constantine Canon) had caused. This of course, also included the censorship of Julian's after words.

But are not the irony threads here showing that Mark is ironic and satirical?

Maybe Mark needs to be staged as a satirical play, with the audience laughing at everything. If this is possible, it shows its genre.

I tried being satirical and people just attacked me. <edited>

I wouldn't bother, you either get Monty Python or you don't apparently.

mountainman · 12-27-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Clivedurdle

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the sacred matters of inspired teaching

Maybe we need to tear this veneer off the New Testament.

Do you mean to say you have not yet done this? Do you really think the NT represents "sacred matters of inspired teaching"? Do you really follow Eusebius in this shameless assertion for which he was well paid in Constantinian gold solidi?

The new testament was severely ridiculed in the 4th century by the greeks.
It was satirised from one end of the empire to the other by the greeks.
But particularly in Alexandria, the center of the Greek civilisation.
WHEN? About 325 CE.

WHY? Because it was rubbish.

mountainman · 12-27-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Clivedurdle

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Originally Posted by mountainman

Mark was very much included as one of the Tetrarchy of Gospels in the Constantine Codex Clivedurdle. Mark was one of the books Eusebius above describes as "the sacred matters of inspired teaching ".

According to Eusebius Mark was exposed to the most shameful ridicule
in the very theaters of the unbelievers. Who were these unbelievers?
They were the ancient Eastern Greek civilisation itself!!!!
What happened to the ancient Eastern Greek civilisation?
The Constantine Codex happened. Pythagoras and Euclid were no longer in favour with the New Guardian Class. A massive revolution was happening which is as yet only faintly understood. Christianity won the revolution, but the Greeks went down writing satire against it bigtime.

They were obviously out there performing satires aimed at Christianity in the Greek theatres. The texts of these satires I think are what we now call the non canonical acts and gospels of the NT. The canon came first, then it was satired --- as Eusebius discloses above.

The later Christian heresiological historians simply attempted to bury the controversy Christianity (ie: the Constantine Canon) had caused. This of course, also included the censorship of Julian's after words.

But are not the irony threads here showing that Mark is ironic and satirical?

In the fabrication of the NT canon, the Greek empire was going to bow down to a Jewish but Non Jewish God. The satire exists in the non canonical reactions which chronologically followed the publication of the NT canon.

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