JPD

Penelope Pitstop, is that you?

firebird

You are the ark, the naimals are your animal nature, you need to carefully read everything I posted, and you will understand.

Don't be a minister of the letter.

for the Letter KILLETH, the literal interpretation KILLS. di you see??


oh well!!!



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Stephen T-B

Please, Firebird. I do not require answers from you.
You don't take the Bible literally (unless I've completely misunderstood the 3,452 words you've already posted).
My interest is in the people who do take it literally. Savvy?

firebird

The're brainwashed!! It's simple.


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Stephen T-B

yes yes yes yes yes. We know that.
But here's a secret just between you and me: they don't.

firebird

Absolutely, they are taught that the bible is the LITERAL word of some god, this is why religion is evil, because they teach this lie.


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Alethias

I think a very appropriate home for this de-rail is ~~Elsewhere~~

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TheViewFromNowhere

Hey I hope these answers are helpful to you,

Christ being raised into the sky was away of him showing his new glory after his ressurection to the Disciples to strengthen their faith. It in no way means heaven is in the sky. In a Biblical worldview it is completely absurd, ridiculous even, to think heaven is anywhere in the physical Universe. The Bible explicitly teaches that God is seperate from this universe as he is it's creator and since God is 'in' heaven heaven is also outside of this whole dimention altogether. There is also a scripture that straight out says that we cannot in any way possibly experience these kinds of spiritual realities in our physical bodies.

As for Christ sitting at the right hand of God well I hardly think there is even a question needed to be asked there. At 'the right hand of God' obviously doesnt mean actually sitting down beside a big man in a large chair! In ancient times when you say that someone in a Royal family "sits at the right hand of their father" it means they take up their equal authority and glory. God's full character is completely incomprhensible to us and when the Bible describes him with human features it is either symbolic ie."God sitting on his throne" to show his majesty, or is mentioning when the pre incarnate (before his virgin birth) Christ appeared to people as in quasi human form since he took upon himslef the burden of a human nature so he could pay the price for our sins. The Bible clearly states "God is spirit" and spirit does not consist of flesh. No true evangelical Theologian has ever believed that God actually has bodyparts like we do! It's just sillly really.

I've read all these questions and they all have very good answers, I havent seen any that pose any threat really to Christian belief, so hopefully I can work my way through them in the coming days. But I will not answer questions that are designed to do nothing but cause trouble, if they are honest I will help.

Cheers.

Weltall

So here's my question. If you acknowedge that heaven isn't part of this universe (thus undetectable by definition) how do you know it really exists?
Can I assume you believe in a 'spiritual' soul or somesuch? If so, where in the body is it? Be specific.
So Revelation is all a lie then? Good to know.