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Old 05-10-2004, 11:10 PM   #81
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It was God that impregnated Mary. Or hadn't you heard?
I asked you this on the last page, and I'll ask you again. Why do you throw away your own standards? You would not believe such a story if it was happening to some girl on your own block, you would laugh at anyone who did believe, why swallow it hook, line and sinker because it's 2000 years old?
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Gabriel also spoke the Koran to Muhammad.
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That's a seriously busy angel.
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I think its just him. Gabriel. He goes around talking shit to gullible people and then disguises himself as a donkey or something and watches the insanity set in. It can always be traced back to him.
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I've been trying to find a cartoon I saw a long while back, with Mary & Joseph in obvious post-coital relaxation. The caption was:

"Mmm... Joseph, that was immaculate


..well, it made me laugh, anyway
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I asked you this on the last page, and I'll ask you again. Why do you throw away your own standards? You would not believe such a story if it was happening to some girl on your own block, you would laugh at anyone who did believe, why swallow it hook, line and sinker because it's 2000 years old?
That is a good point. Maybe that's why there hasn't been a response to it yet. Hmmm....

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THE SEDUCTION OF A VIRGIN NAMED MARY
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All Christians subscribe to the notion that the Holy Ghost knocked up the Virgin Mary. This brings to mind all kinds of questions that a reasonable person might ask. Who was Mary's gynecologist who broke the rule of confidentiality and told the world that Mary was a virgin? Another question that comes to mind, did the Virgin Mary want to be pregnant, did she ask the Holy Ghost to lie with her? And how about Joseph, how does feel about being cuckold by a Holy Ghost? Did the virgin named Mary concoct this story of being knocked up by a Holy Ghost to escape criticism of being with child by another then with poor Joseph? Wasn't Mary in reality committing adultery with the ghost that was not so holy?
Doesn't her thinly veiled excuse of adultery with a Ghost raise questions that a good Christian might ask? How does a ghost described in my dictionary as; a disembodied soul, a faint shadowy trace. How did this Holy Ghost impregnate little Virgin Mary? Did the ghost have a penis? If the Holy Ghost is incorporeal, how was "he" able to pull this pregnancy off?
If the Holy Ghost was incorporeal, I assume Mary did not derive any pleasure from this union. Just like a chauvinistic pig, the Holy Ghost wasn't concerned if Mary had an orgasm. From what I understand about this Holy Ghost affair, the Holy Ghost did have an orgasm ( I might be old fashion but I think that what it takes to knock up a virgin) And of course Mary being just a simple peasant girl felt she had to give in to the Holy Ghosts advances and smothering kisses.
Another question that comes to mind, if the Holy Ghost was incorporeal how did Mary know who knocked her up? Another question that come to mind, who was taking notes on all that was going on between the Holy Ghost and the Virgin Mary?
Did Mary contrive this story to deceive poor Joseph who does not appear to be too bright? Was this tryst a one-time fling or has it been going on for some time? Was this the same Holy Ghost that has been knocking up virgins to give birth to divine, Godchildren we read about in older civilizations? (What a sly devil he is) Can you imagine the delight of the Holy Ghost in seducing some of the most beautiful women who were the wives and sisters of kings.
Is it possible that Mary had this adulterous affair because Joseph was a lousy lover? We know that the Holy Ghost did not wear a condom, is this why Catholic Church forbids the use of condoms because of the Holy Ghost? Do you suppose this naïve virgin did not know how babies are made? Or did the Holy Ghost lull the Virgin Mary into a false sense of security by telling her he had a vasectomy? Is it possible the Holy Ghost promised marriage if she divorce Joseph? Or did the Holy Ghost take advantage of the Virgin named Mary that he just wanted to put it in just a little bit? Did the Holy Ghost tell Mary she couldn't become pregnant if he put it in a tiny bit? Another question that comes to mind was there any foreplay to arouse the virgin named Mary or did he stick it in because the Holy Ghost wanted a quick fuck?
Did the Holy Ghost make up the story that the virgin named Mary would be the mother of a God, just so he can seduce her? I am sure that the idea of giving birth to a God by this simple peasant girl could bring her fame and riches. I am almost certain that the whole story of the Immaculate Conception was the Virgin Mary's story to hide her indiscretion because she knew the town's people were a little dense. And history has shown the simpletons of that period just accepted the story as they have for thousands of years of fantastic and supernatural births just as they do today(nothing has changed)
On the other side of the coin, is it possible that the virgin named Mary was paranoid and convinced of the truth that she was a virgin that gave birth to a God? After all, it is only the word of the virgin named Mary isn't it? If Mary did not give consent to this adulteress affair would it not seem evident that the Holy Ghost raped the virgin named Mary? Wasn't she surprised according Christian literature she just woke up one morning and discovered she was with child? There is no indication that the virgin named Mary told her friends, family or neighbors that she wanted a child. Did the Ghost that was holy take financial responsibility and obligations that would occur if there were a child of his union with the virgin named Mary?
It is evident the Holy Ghost was not a noble Ghost. The way the story is told, it sounds as though the Holy Ghost just sneaked up on the virgin named Mary one evening as she lie in bed.
One definition in my dictionary of a ghost or spirit is a supernatural being or essence, spirit, and often malevolent being that is bodiless but can become visible; a malevolent being that enters and possesses a human being. This description certainly sounds like the Holy Ghost is a rapist.


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So many of you are way off---------

It was God that impregnated Mary. Or hadn't you heard?
THE TRUE STORY OF LITTLE VIRGIN MARY
By New 10.
Sex for the sheer pleasure of orgasm is a sin according to the Catholic Church, as explained in this story of "Little Virgin Mary."
Little Virgin Mary, hopping and skipping along in her new red coat and bonnet, basket of fruit in hand, was on her way to visit her grandmother.
Knock, knock, on the door with little Virgin Mary's bumbershoot. "Come in," said her grandmother. When little Virgin Mary entered her grandmother’s bedroom she saw no one there.
Then she heard a voice, "Come in, little Virgin Mary and lay next to me, I will make you famous." said the voice. “If you let me fondle you, you will be able to work miracles," said the voice.
"No!" said little Virgin Mary. "I'm too young and pure."
“If you submit to me I will give you a son who will be a god."
"But, I don’t want to be a mother. I don’t want children,�? said little Virgin Mary.
So the voice raped little Virgin Mary.
"Who are you?�? asked little Virgin Mary.
“I’m the Holy Ghost!�?
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Altho any RC sect's Bishop you're likely to ask almost-certainly will be too IGNORANT of Biology/human genetics to tell you the answer (Seminarians aren't taught that stuff!), --- if you could get an authoritative (sic) response from someone like Joe Cardinal Ratzinger , head of the CDF, who is the "official" ref of RC dogma, you'd probably be advised that un-unh, no fakery, Their Lord's Mother HAD to have been a "normal" biological/chromosomal XX human female, and no fantcy evasions are allowed. "WE are the TRUTH; take it or leave it."

You (like all other swigging Catholics) are obliged to swallow the miraculous bullshit WHOLE and that's that. You might try writing to Cardinal Ratz @ the Vatican and see what answer you get, if any. I've done that several times and no result.

I do keep suggesting that if inquirers here at EyeEye want to consider the matter of "the alleged Virgin Birth", you might spend the less-than-5-minutes checking-out my paper about that. But if you'ld rather squabble-on , than consider the facts, that is of course your privilege. Can find web site for that onepage paper by backing-up here at this thread to my post of last week or so, informing LPETRICH. Or in fact, here's the link:

www.c-c-c.freeserve.co.uk/r113-10.htm (Thanks, LPETRICH.)
ONLY a brainwashed person would give the virgin birth credence
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in order to improve your resume' and up yoour status as a pontificator ,
you seriously HAVE to look-up and to LEARN the difference between the IMMACULATE CONCEPTION -of the alleged Virgin Mother, Mary; and (between) The VIRGIN CONCEPTION/BIRTH of Jesus, her allegedly-(human) fatherless male child.
It's well-on for time you learn this, Dude! Get it straight.

Also sneering at the countless idiots who believe in the alleged VIRGIN BIRTH of Jesus and in the alleged perpetual Virginity of his Mother is not going to convince those believers that their belief is a ridiculous LIE.Someone (Tip hat smiley.) here at EyeEye recently recommended your/our connecting to the catholic forum site rather parallel to this-here. Link there is
http://forums.catholic.com

Read the threads/posts there; and convince yourself that a fair number of ordinary folks DO EARNESTLY BELIEVE in (all) that junk.
Edited to add: anyone who plans to dispute w/ believing catholics had better have his/her own ducks in a row information-wise; or you'll end up w/ egg on your face, like the ignorant believers who come here to flaunt their FAITH at us. You know...
You may want to plug into them; and see if they'll allow you to dispute there... Worth a try.
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