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Old 11-08-2012, 10:07 AM   #161
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In short: I document bullshit.

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Put up or shut up.

A single actual error. Quote it here. OR SHUT UP.

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OPENING A GODDAMN DICTIONARY, IS THAT TOO HARD?
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Thanks, great resource, and I hope Acharya will take some of the criticisms to heart and revise some of the mistakes he points out, like her claim that the Polynesians were navigating the Pacific 30,000 years ago and the like.
Really? And you know that the ancient Polynesians did not accomplish this, how? Did you perform DNA analysis of long buried fossils to demonstrate parallel evolution, contradicting the claim?

It is 2500 miles from Tahiti to Easter Island. Who placed the 15 ton stone statues there? Jesus? Angel Moroni?

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Funny, I didn't see anything there that was a personal attack. I think you make my point about being unable to distinguish criticism of ideas form personal attacks.

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By definition, criticizing her logic is criticizing her ideas. Nothing there says that she is a bad person. The accusation is that she uses bad logic, and she can answer this charge by showing that her logic is not bad, or that linguists agree with her.
Else, alternatively, you can illustrate a single instance where you think that "she uses bad logic".

Personally, having read only the smallest excerpts from her blog, and none of her books, I would argue that her logic is reasonable. I have encountered no blunders from her, contrary to many others on the forum.

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Your denial is getting sillier with every post you make.
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I see Tanya decided to delete her post, which my previous post was in response to.
I am unaware of deleting any post. Can you please teach me, which post am I supposed to have deleted?

For example, look at post 151. It has been deleted.

Toto may be able to assist us, here, especially in view of her mastery of logic.

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Old 11-08-2012, 11:41 AM   #162
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Tanya, if you read my posts you see there's several well documented instances of Acharya making stuff up or quoting others who have made stuff up. The fact that you get angry at me for pointing this out does say something about you.
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Tanya, if you read my posts you see there's several well documented instances of Acharya making stuff up or quoting others who have made stuff up. The fact that you get angry at me for pointing this out does say something about you.
I am annoyed that you wrote:
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I see Tanya decided to delete her post
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Where is the post, which number, supposedly deleted by me.

Who has "made stuff up"?

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Old 11-08-2012, 01:37 PM   #164
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:55 PM   #165
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Whoops, sorry, I confused two forums here at one point. Weird. I don't usually do that. No wait, no way I did that.

Would you agree to have a moderator verify that you have no deleted post between, say, posts number #7319598 and #7319649 ? I am very convinced you have one there. You would notice that the bit I quote is much closer to your style in writing than it is to mine, and I have definitely not spent any time trying to imitate your style. The fact that I furthermore do not recall having written anything of the like, but just copy-pasted it from the then still available history of that browser tab, kind of indicates that this indeed is yours. And it keeps up a dumb counterclaim you're making - that I have provided no sources for my claim regarding the Irish deception in her books.

So there. Are you willing to have a moderator look into that, if one agrees to do so?
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:13 PM   #166
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Looks from the last couple of posts as if this thread is going off-topic....
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:13 PM   #167
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In short: I document bullshit.

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Put up or shut up.

A single actual error. Quote it here. OR SHUT UP.

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OPENING A GODDAMN DICTIONARY, IS THAT TOO HARD?

Really? And you know that the ancient Polynesians did not accomplish this, how? Did you perform DNA analysis of long buried fossils to demonstrate parallel evolution, contradicting the claim?
Why would parallel evolution be necessary? Archeological research, genetic testing, legends among the polynesians, and the linguistic variation among the polynesian languages and so on indicate the Polynesians spread out about 3500 years ago. There's solid literature on this, although some details remain unclear.


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It is 2500 miles from Tahiti to Easter Island. Who placed the 15 ton stone statues there? Jesus? Angel Moroni?
Polynesians, and after - indeed- traversing thousands of miles of open sea. 25 000 years later than Acharya claims. Has she carried out archeological digs in Polynesia? Has she done genetic testing? Why do you present strawman arguments?



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Else, alternatively, you can illustrate a single instance where you think that "she uses bad logic".

Personally, having read only the smallest excerpts from her blog, and none of her books, I would argue that her logic is reasonable. I have encountered no blunders from her, contrary to many others on the forum.
Wait a second here, I have to perform archeological digs in a far off country for you to be satisfied with my claim that her books are worthless, yet you can claim they are indeed mighty fine works without reading them?
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:06 PM   #168
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Put up or shut up.

A single actual error. Quote it here. OR SHUT UP.

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I see Tanya decided to delete her post...

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I am very convinced you have one there.
"Put up or shut up."

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Old 11-08-2012, 04:28 PM   #169
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We don't, as a rule, delete posts, and users cannot delete posts.

Yes, this is going off topic. Perhaps I will have time to clean it up later. Feel free to PM me with your ideas.
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In 2008, a Finnish tourist chipped a piece off the ear of one moai.
I wonder who that could be....

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Has she carried out archeological digs in Polynesia? Has she done genetic testing?
Have you?

John Milton, Sonnet on his blindness;
Beethoven, Symphony #9.

Some folks have the ability to ponder, think, and reflect on an issue, for example, searching for a genetically improved strain of corn, able to withstand drought, without actually raising the corn, themselves. But, then you surely know that, having engaged in genetic testing yourself:

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Archeological research, genetic testing, legends among the polynesians, and the linguistic variation among the polynesian languages and so on indicate the Polynesians spread out about 3500 years ago.
You employ linguistic evidence to support a date for construction of the moai? You find legendary accounts dispositive?

Do you possess evidence demonstrating that the Polynesians did NOT spread out, until 3500 years ago? You know of some technique to prove that Polynesians could not have sailed anywhere 30,000 years ago? For example, maybe they were still in Africa--they hadn't yet reached polynesia? May I ask, how do you suppose the aboriginal peoples of Australia/New Zealand reached their destination, 50,000 years ago? They maybe walked across the ocean, like Jesus?

So, you imagine then, that folks left Africa only at a single point in time, and emigrated to a fixed location, and never moved from there?
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