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Bible John · 08-24-2007, 03:48 PM

Ashamed of the Gospel, When the Church Becomes like the World. pp 76-77

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Jeremiah for example, preached forty years without seeing any significant positive response. On the contrary, his countrymen threatened to kill him if he did not stop prophesying (Jer 11:19-23); his own family and friends plotted against him (12:6); he was not permitted to marry and so had to suffer loneliness (16:2); plots were devised to kill him secretly (18:20-23); he was beaten and put in stocks (20:1, 2); he was spied on by friends who sought revenge (10)... and accused of being a traitor to the nation (37:13, 14). He had virtually no converts to show for a lifetime of ministry.

I think the problem in Christendom these days, are there are virtually few or no Jeremiah type Christians. So few Christians today like to preach and teach what people do not like to hear. So many are ear ticklers, and so many compromise the truth to please people.

Me and my ministry CERM, do not do this. I speak the truth and I confront some of the devils disciples who have ministries. I cant confront all of these hellfire teachers, but imagine if other Christians took the Bible seriously and strived to be like Jeremiah?

Other Christians that post here. Please read the following scriptures.

Jeremiah 11-37.

If Seebs is for real I wonder why he is not trying to be like Jeremiah. Well I wont discredit or harp on him, as no one is perfect.

But its because of this attitude why heresy and Spiritual Terrorists get into the church. So few want to speak against these type like Jeremiah did.

If there are other Christan's reading this, may I ask why are you not as passionate for the truth as Jeremiah was?

John

Harry Bosch · 08-24-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bible John

Ashamed of the Gospel, When the Church Becomes like the World. pp 76-77

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Jeremiah for example, preached forty years without seeing any significant positive response. On the contrary, his countrymen threatened to kill him if he did not stop prophesying (Jer 11:19-23); his own family and friends plotted against him (12:6); he was not permitted to marry and so had to suffer loneliness (16:2); plots were devised to kill him secretly (18:20-23); he was beaten and put in stocks (20:1, 2); he was spied on by friends who sought revenge (10)... and accused of being a traitor to the nation (37:13, 14). He had virtually no converts to show for a lifetime of ministry.

I think the problem in Christendom these days, are there are virtually few or no Jeremiah type Christians. So few Christians today like to preach and teach what people do not like to hear. So many are ear ticklers, and so many compromise the truth to please people.

Me and my ministry CERM, do not do this. I speak the truth and I confront some of the devils disciples who have ministries. I cant confront all of these hellfire teachers, but imagine if other Christians took the Bible seriously and strived to be like Jeremiah?

Other Christians that post here. Please read the following scriptures.

Jeremiah 11-37.

If Seebs is for real I wonder why he is not trying to be like Jeremiah. Well I wont discredit or harp on him, as no one is perfect.

But its because of this attitude why heresy and Spiritual Terrorists get into the church. So few want to speak against these type like Jeremiah did.

If there are other Christan's reading this, may I ask why are you not as passionate for the truth as Jeremiah was?

John

What is a spirtual terrorist?

WishboneDawn · 08-24-2007, 04:01 PM

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If Seebs is for real I wonder why he is not trying to be like Jeremiah.

I don't really see Seebs in the role of Jewish prophet.

WishboneDawn · 08-24-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinger

What is a spirtual terrorist?

This and only this...Us christians that disagree with Bible John.

Bible John · 08-24-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinger

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Originally Posted by Bible John

Ashamed of the Gospel, When the Church Becomes like the World. pp 76-77

I think the problem in Christendom these days, are there are virtually few or no Jeremiah type Christians. So few Christians today like to preach and teach what people do not like to hear. So many are ear ticklers, and so many compromise the truth to please people.

Me and my ministry CERM, do not do this. I speak the truth and I confront some of the devils disciples who have ministries. I cant confront all of these hellfire teachers, but imagine if other Christians took the Bible seriously and strived to be like Jeremiah?

Other Christians that post here. Please read the following scriptures.

Jeremiah 11-37.

If Seebs is for real I wonder why he is not trying to be like Jeremiah. Well I wont discredit or harp on him, as no one is perfect.

But its because of this attitude why heresy and Spiritual Terrorists get into the church. So few want to speak against these type like Jeremiah did.

If there are other Christan's reading this, may I ask why are you not as passionate for the truth as Jeremiah was?

John

What is a spirtual terrorist?

A apostate who is in Christendom posing as a Christian, but is no Christian, but a fake. These type are usually teachers, preachers, have websites, write books, or do something to teach others. They deceive the gullible into heresy and false teachings which can lead someone to Hell and the Lake of Fire.

To learn more about them.

http://www.cerm.info/bible_studies/A...Terrorists.htm

Bible John · 08-24-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WishboneDawn

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Originally Posted by Stinger

What is a spirtual terrorist?

This and only this...Us christians that disagree with Bible John.

Not me. But essential Christian Doctrine.

1. Deity of Jesus
2. Trinity
3. Saved by Faith
4. Authority of the Scriptures

Toto · 08-24-2007, 04:22 PM

But I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.

Hi Bible John - you know that this is a message board run by atheists, right? Are you trying to entertain us with your brand of Christianity? It doesn's sound like you trying to convert us.

The OP quotes Ashamed of the Gospel: When the Church Becomes Like the World (or via: amazon.co.uk)

The book description on Amazon claims

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The signs of compromise are all around us: Numbers have become more important than the message. Churches are offering up "Show-Time" religion instead of the "Old-Time" religion. Pastors have turned to the marketing industry to help them draw people in rather than relying on the sovereign power of God.

Until all that changes--until we return to our calling to go into all the world and preach the Gospel without shame--the Church is in danger of losing its impact on society. And that would be our generation's greatest loss.

But you realize that if the church didn't pull those marketing stunts, that it would be completely marginalized? Christianity would have died out by now. How can you complain about the very activities that have thwarted secularism?

windsofchange · 08-24-2007, 04:29 PM

Moved to ~E~ - preaching.

Doug Shaver · 08-25-2007, 06:26 AM

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I speak the truth

No, you don't. I speak the truth.

Now, obviously we cannot both be right. So, how do you think we might resolve this contradiction?

Doug Shaver · 08-25-2007, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bible John

essential Christian Doctrine.

And you know, infallibly, what that doctrine is?

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