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Old 01-18-2012, 06:33 AM   #31
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The word "passion" is from a Latin word (patior) that means "to suffer," "To endure," not to die.
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:43 AM   #32
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Clement would have opposed the idea of God having any “passion” or feeling “passionate” including suffering of any kind. Impassibility means to be devoid of feelings, passion
Just opposite as to the senses he died because they were and illusion. But true, God is non-emotion to which emotion must die to reach beyond illusion where desire is no longer and so 'the flesh' is transformed in the mind of man that Pure Reason may remain, as it must on the other side of lala land.
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:47 AM   #33
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God coming off a cross after 600 years is crackers. Deity cannot have allowed a fundamental error to go uncorrected so long.
He was a New Final Imposter as per Math 27:64 c and a forerunner of Luther whose eyes also were half opened.
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[It's not all supernatural magic stuff - if it was then that gospel JC story would have no legs to run on. It's history that has anchored the 'salvation' story, it's pseudo-history. Two streams running here - history and 'salvation' history. Eventually, historical memories fade, the stream tapers off - but by then the 'salvation' story is up and running as a fast flowing river....
That is because fire must exist to purify the lamb of God and the 'fiery son of man' must do this as he is the only worthy to pull the 'old hide' called religion from the sinner.

It is a good image you have and so the Inquistor is needed the distinguish from above 'who is who' and 'which is which' in this ongoing melodrama that is unfolding in their flock, where truly it is true that the wolf that must nurse the Lamb od God. I.e. Fire is needed to purify gold and so the fire must be first and put the gold in it as if they were 'thrown in the lions den.'

The same image here is when the missionaries were boiled by the savages abroad to teach them a thing or two and so received their welcome.
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Clement would have opposed the idea of God having any “passion” or feeling “passionate” including suffering of any kind. Impassibility means to be devoid of feelings, passion
The same may be said of Arius of Alexandria, whom Constantine quotes as saying:
“Away! I do not wish God to appear
to be subject to suffering of outrages ...
. . . to say that it was a divine comedy and not a Senecan tragedy.
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So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.
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(With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. Everyone in Jerusalem heard about this, so they called that field in their language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.)
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Once you arrive at Glogotha where the crisis moment is at you either die on the cross or at the foot of the cross and either a Comedy is at hand or a Tragedy with nothing in between, so say that both heaven and hell are real as opposites to each other, neither one of which can be conceived the exist without the other.

And I think the 30 silver pieces bought the legal rights of Peter as the grafted branch.
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The same image here is when the missionaries were boiled by the savages abroad to teach them a thing or two and so received their welcome.
To maybe add here that this syndrome is an archetypal travesty wherein they knew that the very pot they boiled them in is wherein they cooked up the recipe they handed them.
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