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Old 11-02-2004, 06:31 AM   #1
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Did God forbid to kill Jesus?

"Though shalt not kill"

Did not the basic requirements change after Jesus came to the stage? Is that not an arbitrary command that your God issued to humanity?


So much for God "preserving His Word" and not being the God of confusion".
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Did God forbid to kill Jesus?

"Though shalt not kill"

Did not the basic requirements change after Jesus came to the stage? Is that not an arbitrary command that your God issued to humanity?


So much for God "preserving His Word" and not being the God of confusion".
For one, its thou shalt not murder, and 2, God didn't nail Christ to the cross. The romans did. It was also a formal execution, and therefore may not have fallen under "murder".
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For one, its thou shalt not murder, and 2, God didn't nail Christ to the cross. The romans did. It was also a formal execution, and therefore may not have fallen under "murder".
Assuming this actually happened, and under the circumstances you Christians assume then...

...actually your god was more responsible for Jesus' execution than the Romans were. After all, he set up the circumstances so that Jesus would be killed, and then made sure it happened.
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Agree with Magus on this one.

Say Wha??

Come on guys---------aren't you stretching a bit?
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Agree with Magus on this one.

Say Wha??

Come on guys---------aren't you stretching a bit?
Well, you are more or less obliged to agree with Magus on this issue, aren't you? Birds of a feather and all that.

Think about it, though. According to Christian belief, Christ's birth and death were prophecied long before the event. Thus your god had to have arranged things in order to fulfill this prophecy.
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And didn't Jesus famously say "Not my will, but thine"?
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And didn't Jesus famously say "Not my will, but thine"?
I think he is supposed to have said something like that.

Though given that everyone was asleep at the time, I wonder who was making notes in the Garden of Gethsemane.
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:46 PM   #8
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Did God forbid to kill Jesus?

"Though shalt not kill"

Did not the basic requirements change after Jesus came to the stage? Is that not an arbitrary command that your God issued to humanity?


So much for God "preserving His Word" and not being the God of confusion".
I've been told by some Christians that God's commandment is to be interpreted as 'Thou shalt not kill Christians, all others are fair game'. In any case, you need to pick a side of the freewill/master-plan debate in order to comment. I'm all for free will so in my opinion it was not God that killed Jesus, rather it was people. But if you believe in the master-plan ideal then it's the other way around and you've got a case. If God controls all, then He killed Himself, "divine suicide by-proxy".

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Assuming this actually happened, and under the circumstances you Christians assume then...

...actually your god was more responsible for Jesus' execution than the Romans were. After all, he set up the circumstances so that Jesus would be killed, and then made sure it happened.

It should also be noted that exceution to one person is murder to another. The objective aspect is the death itself, what you call it is subjective. America calls itself liberators, while Iraq calls us invaders.
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[QUOTE=Magus55] God didn't nail Christ to the cross. QUOTE]

That's not my question.

Here's my question:
Did God forbid to kill Jesus?
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