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Old 11-14-2004, 07:46 AM   #51
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No, rather these forums are like a picnic table spread with carefully prepared dishes, the labors of honest men striving to separate fact from fiction,
See I told you so. Myth is real and your so called facts are fiction and therefore you have trouble separating them. You're thinking Disney when you say that myth is not real, or Hollywood, where all truths are perverted to help make your (impersonal) pain more bearable.
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:25 AM   #52
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It can't be arrogant because I am not part of my argument. I am not a so called Christian and have nothing to gain or lose in my presentation. I am not a theologian and if I like to tamper with Gods word it should be welcome on the atheist board, especially in the philosophy department.

Oh and yes, I have no problem calling the Mormons, the Baptists, the Adventists and all the other denominations except Judaism and Catholicism wrong in the end.
As you are,

"not a so called Christian"

And as you are,

"not a theologian"

And as you,

"like to tamper with Gods word"

I will rephrase my post,

You set yourself up as the single and self appointed ultimate authority on earth, as to the meaning, interpretation, and application of every single verse, and if all the tens of thousands of learned Biblical scholars, and uncounted millions of believers disagree with your mythical fabrications and interpretations, Well, "they have everything about religion just backwards,"
that doesn't conform to your self-invented mythological Theology.
Such a humble and self abasing individual!

Not to put too fine a point on it Chili,

If, and as you here do admit, that you, "like tampering with Gods word"

The Pope don't buy your bogus claim,

The Catholic Church doesn't buy your bogus claim,

Judaism doesn't buy your bogus claim,

And Atheism won't buy you bogus claim either,

But Catholicism, and Judaism, and Atheism have no problem determining your pretentious claims to be erroneous and bogus, Today, tomorrow, and forever.
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Old 11-14-2004, 05:01 PM   #53
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But Catholicism, and Judaism, and Atheism have no problem determining your pretentious claims to be erroneous and bogus, Today, tomorrow, and forever.
Catholicism and Judaism can't buy it because they must be ready and willing to crucify the next messiah and you must excuse the atheists because [unlike Jesus] they have been 'burned' by religion.
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Old 11-14-2004, 07:09 PM   #54
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Catholicism and Judaism can't buy it because they must be ready and willing to crucify the next messiah and you must excuse the atheists because [unlike Jesus] they have been 'burned' by religion.
And so out of all mankind that just leaves Chili, as the only person on earth that has the true understanding of the words of the Bible. :down:
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And so out of all mankind that just leaves Chili, as the only person on earth that has the true understanding of the words of the Bible. :down:
There are hundreds if not thousands of like-minded people in the arts. Even simple highschool readers such as The Spire, the poems by Hardy, and anything by Shakespeare, and nearly every Romantic, and classic, will present the exact same theme or a condensed version of it. It actually is what makes the heavens round and the world still flat. But you may have it your way if you insist.
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Nope Chili, not buying that line either, now if you want to claim that you have an alliance of understanding with seriously deranged mental patients....
I am willing to accept that you are a harmless (hopefully) nut case, mainstreamed because they had to close the Institution.
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I hope you stick around because there is a lot more where this came from. I am having a ball sir and would like you to be a good sport.
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I'm new to this board and this thread is way old but I just want to add that this metaphorical interpretation of Jesus that Chili presents is very widespread but I haven't found many sources who can articulate it as clearly as he does.

To me the most interesting thing about any religion is the depth of the metaphores involved. That's why they spread and they stick around, they speak to us on so many levels. Nothing Chili is talking about contradicts essential tenets of Christianity or Judaism, unless you're talking about fundamentalism or literalism.
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Thanks enki. It sounds like you have nothing invested in religion that can be shaken.

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To me the most interesting thing about any religion is the depth of the metaphors involved. That's why they spread and they stick around, they speak to us on so many levels.
Exactly and the art of art works is contained in the 'nearness' of the metaphor to truth. Metaphors must be daringly revealing yet remain obscure to the masses who would be dazzled if the truth was revealed to them. How else can life still 'tickle our fancy' when we are young?
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Exactly and that makes Mary non-Jewish and Jesus the Christ who was born of God not subject to Jewish law.
Did he get his Y chromosome from dog
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