GakuseiDon

We're actually spoiled for choice. My favorite one by Acharya S where she writes:

"... I find it pretty much impossible to believe that the English royal family are shape-shifting reptilians who ate Diana and babies, etc., ad nausea.".

Yes, "pretty much" impossible indeed. The context is below. Acharya S writes:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Christ...y/message/1265

Re Icke and the reptilians, I am sure that he believes his sources and conclusions to be true. One of the earlier proponents of the reptilian shape-shifter paradigm was Pamela Stonebrooke, whose been a friend of mine for years. Although I may not "believe" in such beings (I'm not saying yes or no), I don't get into it with her. She's an amazingly interesting and far-out person. I think the same way about Icke, so I just don't get into it with him. I will say, however, that I find it pretty much impossible to believe that the English royal family are shape-shifting reptilians who ate Diana and babies, etc., ad nausea.

GakuseiDon

Dave, let me ask you for the third time:

1. Hallet writes that his Pygmy friends had had no contact with the outside world for 4000 years (at which time they were visited by at least one Egyptian explorer), therefore they could not have picked up the Osiris-Isis-Horus and proto-Christ myth story elements from any outsider.

2. Acharya S traces the origins of those myths **before** 4000 years ago.

Therefore Hallet's conclusion is not valid. According to Acharya S's own research, it is possible that the Pygmies could well have picked up those myths from outsiders.

Am I correct?

ApostateAbe

OK, that's fine. Let's move on to Quetzacoatl. Why does Acharya S claim that Quetzacoatl was born of a virgin?

aa5874

Well, is the claim that Jesus was crucified in the SUB-LUNAR credible?

Is the claim that an historical Jesus was born in Nazareth credible?

Earl Doherty claims Jesus was crucified in the Sublunar when NO such thing can be found in the Canonised ENTIRE NT

Bart Ehrman claims that the Gospels are NOT reliable sources yet use those very ADMITTED unreliable sources to claim an HJ was from Nazareth who was baptized by John and crucified under Pilate.

Why don't you ADDRESS the credibility of Earl Doherty's and Bart Ehrman's sources and not only Achyara's?

Whether or NOT Pygmies believe in Space Aliens like Jesus or Marcion's Phantom cannot alter the EXTANT description of Jesus in the NT.

Jesus in the NT was described as a Space Alien who came down from heaven, the Creator of heaven and earth and Child of the Holy Ghost.

It is NOT a secret that even some Scholars may BELIEVE Jesus did ASCEND into place called heaven like a Space Alien..

Why single out Acharya?

Now, you also know that ApostateAbe and Gakuseidon use ADMITTED UNRELIABLE sources, the books about the Space Alien called Jesus, to make claims about some unknown character called HJ of Nazareth.

It was the Child of a Ghost, some kind of UFO that lived in Nazareth in the NT.

aupmanyav

And the ghost had a DNA similar to humans.
(Oh, no. On the second thought, he only breathed into Mary. Perhaps their reproductive system is different)

Godfrey

Wow, Dave.

As a relative bystander on this thread, I have to ask: have you ever stopped to consider that Toto may be right about your approach?

Have you ever just--STOPPED--and wondered why intellectual-types don't respond well to sentences blared in all caps?

The difference in argumentation style in this thread is telling: you discredit yourself from the get-go by relying on an accusatory approach.

Calm down. Present facts. Avoid unsupported assertions. Ignore what you consider to be insults. Be circumspect.

You are very earnest about this, and you apparently view your part in this as some heroic defense of Truth... but your posts all come off like a rabid, slobbery mess.

Dave31

I understand Godfrey. If you were only reading this thread then, I'd agree. However, Toto already knows for a fact that GDon and AAbe have been utterly intellectually dishonest regarding Acharya S for several years now. They all know precisely what I'm referring to in my last comment 148. Notice how they ignored most all of what I said? I'm not the only one who notices the constant antagonizing by GDon and AAbe:

Earl Doherty chewing out GakuseiDon:

That's what these guys do, it's their M.O. They harass you endlessly to try to get you to admit that you said something that you never said in the first place. And Toto has been uncharacteristically coddling them in their efforts lately, proving my point. They just ignore my responses and go back to repeating the same nonsense over and over again but, when I point out the obvious dishonesty, it's all my fault. It's blatantly childish dishonesty.

GakuseiDon

Dave, let me ask you for the fourth time:

1. Hallet writes that his Pygmy friends had had no contact with the outside world for 4000 years (at which time they were visited by at least one Egyptian explorer), therefore they could not have picked up the Osiris-Isis-Horus and proto-Christ myth story elements from any outsider.

2. Acharya S traces the origins of those myths **before** 4000 years ago.

Therefore Hallet's conclusion is not valid. According to Acharya S's own research, it is possible that the Pygmies could well have picked up those myths from outsiders.

Am I correct?

ApostateAbe

Just so I can harass Dave31 some more, I compiled a list of things that Acharya S claims about the about the Mesoamerican god Quetzalcoatl (shown above).

• Phoenicians traveled to the "lost land" to the West in 6th century BCE, as told in a story in the Library of Alexandria
• known as Savior
• born of the virgin Sochiquetzal, Queen of Heaven, per a Mexican hieroglyph
• messenger from heaven announced that she would bear a son without connection with man
• designated morning star
• tempted and fasted for 40 days
• consumed in a eucharist using a proxy
• closely watched by his ten or twelve guards
• slain in atonement for primal sin
• second Coming was confidently expected
• represented as a trinity
• signified by three crosses, large one between the smaller ones
• Codice shows him bending under the weight of cross
• in one crucifix image, covered with suns
• Mexican crucifix depicted a man with nail holes in his feet and hands
• ancient Mexicans had monasteries
• ancient Mexicans had nunneries
• ancient Mexicans called their high priests "Papes"
• ancient Mexicans revered the cross
• ancient Mexicans baptized their children in a ritual of regeneration and rebirth

All of these things are claimed on pages 120-121 of Acharya S's book, Christ Conspiracy, and I would say that it proves that this Aztec god Quetzalcoatl is pretty much Jesus Christ.

You may ask, "But, how does Acharya S know all of this?" Well, here are her sources:

• Graves, Kersey (1875), The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors, University Books, 1971.
• Doane, T.W. (1985), Bible Myths and Their Parallels in Other Religions, Health Research.
• Walker, Barbara (1983), The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets, Harper.
• Higgins, Godfrey (1833), Anacalypsis, A&B Books, 1992.
• Carpenter, Edward (1975), Pagan and Christian Creeds, Health Research.
• Churchward, Albert (1924), The Origin and Evolution of Religion.

MCalavera

This.