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Jehanne · 02-10-2006, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chili

The stake ended 'purgation-without-end' and was the beginning of new life in the mind of the heretic.

Purgation is to last 40 months instead of 40 years and becomes hell on earth beyond 40 months if there is no end in sight until death brings it to an end. This argument is based on Rev.13 (and 14) in the difference between the first and second beast.

So yes, it is a win-win or even a win-win-win if such heretics were fed to the storks.

Purgatory could, according to the medieval theologians, last until the "end of time":

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Ben12/B12bdeus.html

Chili · 02-10-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jehanne

Purgatory could, according to the medieval theologians, last until the "end of time":

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Ben12/B12bdeus.html

It has to last until the end of time because that is where eternal life begins. The difference is that both 40 months and 40 years speak on the end of 'this' world that was created on the 4th day with the creation of the light of common day wherein we are time conscious. The 40 months of Purgatory is the approximate time needed to die to our time consciousness (is ego) and that should not be 40 years when we physically die to end the element of time in our temporal life . . . and therefore also die to 'this' world of illusion.

Jehanne · 02-10-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chili

It has to last until the end of time because that is where eternal life begins. The difference is that both 40 months and 40 years speak on the end of 'this' world that was created on the 4th day with the creation of the light of common day wherein we are time conscious. The 40 months of Purgatory is the approximate time needed to die to our time consciousness (is ego) and that should not be 40 years when we physically die to end the element of time in our temporal life . . . and therefore also die to 'this' world of illusion.

The “end of time�? refers to the Final Judgment. This is “standard�? Catholic teaching.

Chili · 02-10-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jehanne

The “end of time�? refers to the Final Judgment. This is “standard�? Catholic teaching.

Yes, the final judgement is at the end of time or it would not be final. Time is an illusion and does not exist except in the mind of the beholder who is judged on account of this.

Purgatory takes place between heaven and earth (midheaven and not midst of heaven) which is where the final judgement takes place = called out of Egypt is first judgement and from Nazareth is chosen among those called.

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