lpetrich

Also check out Revelation 7:1 -- it seems rather literal-minded abou the Earth having four corners; there is an angel at each one who holds back one wind each of the four winds. The word used is Greek gonia, which means "corner, angle".

And let us not forget about that mountain where Jesus Christ got a good view of "all the kingdoms of the world".

mark9950

Is this all you got?

The earth is a 3 dimensional circle(ball) and never was the hebrew word for ball ever used to describe the earth.

Lets face it Jude gives great credibility to enoch that the church refuse to give when canonizing the bible.

Also the book a jasher is part of the bible.

rlcjhardesty

Both.

rlcjhardesty

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mark9950
[B]Is this all you got?

It's all I have so far. The premise seems to be that Christians were unscientific, uneducated believers of myth. That all of christendom believed that the world was flat, and along comes this guy with some absurd suggestion - the earth is a sphere. You missed the point that Columbus was a Christian, and that he challenged the religious status quo. I gave reference to his journal. What more do you want?

Bede

[QUOTE]Originally posted by rlcjhardesty
[B]Just to be clear: no educated person in the Middle Ages thought the earth was flat. Nor did the church ever support the idea. Columbus was not opposed by anyone who thought the earth was flat. See: The myth of the Flat Earth

Yours

Bede

Bede's Library - faith and reason

spin

I don't think Ecclessiates 1 can do it for you either. The important idea in the passage is that "there is nothing new under the sun." Everything goes in cycles. "The wind goes to the south and to the north turns around (SWBB)" as in "turns around on itself". Cristoforo Colombo (an Italian) used a translation which led him astray regarding the text. (Verse 5 has the sun rising and setting then running back to rise again, quite like Enoch.)


spin

mark9950

I do not think that there were EDUCATED people who wrote the bible as we see education today.

We know the earth is a 3d circle(ball) because of galileos theories at that time and pictures of the earth itself from our spaceships.

During the hebrew writings their world was very small because they did not have cars that could take them farther than those horses and oxcarts.

The truth is thir earth was flat because it seemed that way and they believed that their God created it as such.

That was their belief, not fact, there is a difference.