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Old 11-23-2006, 08:51 PM   #21
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When I see threads such as this being supported by so many ahteists I know why Christianity retains the high ground (warts and all,flaws and all) and I know why atheists in the latest poll are listed as the most despised group in the world.
Let's see:

http://www.celebatheists.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
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Old 11-23-2006, 10:39 PM   #22
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...I see you are trying to get a moderator to close the thread because you are losing so bad.
I have done nothing of the sort. I'm enjoying seeing you make an ass out of yourself too much for that.
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Old 11-23-2006, 10:42 PM   #23
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So once again...Dont bring a knife to a gunfight,atheists!
I find it interesting that you bring this up again and yet you are the one short-handed here by just seeming to want only to add ridicule to this thread instead of actually constructively contributing to it.

Atheism is a lack of a belief in god and nothing more. One is free to believe in anything else they wish. Stating that pedophile priests "are about as anti-christ/atheist as one can get" is not a true point at all because it doesn't really relate to the belief or lack there of.
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Old 11-23-2006, 10:43 PM   #24
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During our recent discussion Steamer you said you worshipped love, honesty, mercy and justice. Don't try and dress this up as something else - it is perverted and offensive.
You seem to be of the opinion that children ought not be told that the boogie man isn't real. I think adults ought to show children there is nothing to fear from the boogie man. Sometimes that isn't nice, but what better way to teach children they need not fear, than by showing that you do not fear?

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You KNOW there are Christians on this forum who are trying to engage in some real and honest debate and you KNOW how much Jesus means to us.
I know many of you fear things you only imagine. The fact is though, you do not know what heaven is like, you only want to please god, even though god is just something you imagine. Since you know nothing of any actual god, then you cannot know if heaven consists of Jesus fucking you in the ass for eternity or not. Your only purpose in heaven is supposedly god's pleasure. You don't know what that pleasure is. If God's pleasure is to sodomize for eternity, then as a good Christian you will just stfu and do what you're told. On earth as it is in heaven.

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You may feel you're being honest, but obviously at the expense of the other qualities you purportedly worship. This says more about your state of mind than anything else. Or, hang on, maybe you think all of us Christians are imaginary...
The problem is that Christians and Muslims are real. The Muslims have shown how dangerous people with imaginary gods can be. Christians are not different than Muslims in the degree to which their gods are imagined.

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And why did the administrators not only allow this to go on but also join in? I thought this was a place for honest debate - not puerile comments which truly offend some people.
Has it ever occurred to you that this board is less important than the real world where people pretending that they know something about an actual god affect real people? Boom! Another Muslimg bites the dust and takes out 25 children, a theist having no more knowledge of an actual god than yourself. Do you really want to debate me about things that are offensive?

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And as for the others who joined in, just reflect on this honestly. Freethinkers?! Please...
I am being honest B. Religion is a dangerous thing. My post here should show you how little I fear your mighty bullshit god. It should also show you that if god's pleasure is to sodomize you forever then you would just bend over and smile. Frankly though, what caused me to write this post was the fact that Hollywood does portray Jesus as someone my wife and sisters find sexually attractive.

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P.S. The dude who spoke up did becuse he or she has a concern for others Steamer...it's called being humane.
Surgery is sometimes painful, but it is not inhumane. Frankly there is more at stake than your feelings about your bullshit god.
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Old 11-23-2006, 10:49 PM   #25
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Seconded. This thread should be closed on the basis that it offers nothing good to anyone, except laughing at others who are more like us, than different. :frown:
Apparently the mods do not agree that censorship is necessay or desirable. I do not believe that they necessarily agree with this post. Tell me exactly why I ought not be irreverent to their imaginary god?
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Old 11-23-2006, 10:53 PM   #26
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You KNOW there are Christians on this forum who are trying to engage in some real and honest debate and you KNOW how much Jesus means to us. ... And why did the administrators not only allow this to go on but also join in? I thought this was a place for honest debate - not puerile comments which truly offend some people.
In case you weren't paying attention, 'your right not to be offended' wasn't part of the II agreement. Otherwise we could bring up WW for her broad-brushing, theists (well, some) could claim rule violations on any post that questions the existence of god and basically nothing would happen because we'd all be too afraid of offending people.
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And as for the others who joined in, just reflect on this honestly. Freethinkers?! Please...
We're actually pondering the implications of the subject as opposed to Christian boards/websites which appear to mostly ignore what the whole 'Bride of Christ' thing means and instead focus on why you should believe what they believe if you want to be there on the Second Cumming Coming. I'd call that freethinking.
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Old 11-24-2006, 12:29 AM   #27
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There have been some humorous posts in this thread, and a few that I would deem a touch over the line(not in a rules violation way but in a tacky way), but they illustrate a serious point that addresses the Opening Post of this thread. The Bible does contain sexual allusions, and the discussion of those sexual allusions tends to make christians terribly uncomfortable. Male christians don't want to hear about Jesus bending them over and fucking them in the ass, but if they are the bride of christ, that is the implication. Most female christians even seem uncomfortable with the concept.

It's a legitimate, religious, christian topic of conversation. I don't see sufficient off-topic, crude material to move it at this point, but am of course keeping the possibility in mind.


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'There is therefore no possible defence for their conduct; knowing God, they have refused to honour him as God, or to render him thanks. Hence, all their thinking has ended in futility and their misguided minds are plunged in darkness. They boast of their wisdom but they have made fools of themselves, exchanging the splendour of immortal God for an image shaped like mortal man, even for images like birds, beasts, and creeping things. '

'Thus, because they have not seen fit to acknowledge God, he has given them up to their own depraved reason'.

Extracts from Romans 1.
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Might want to have something to go along with that discussion-wise so it isn't looked at as what it appears to be....preaching.
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Might want to have something to go along with that discussion-wise so it isn't looked at as what it appears to be....preaching.
I'll let the words of God speak for me on this occassion - if you read them you will see it is wholly relevant to the discussion.

I get pulled up for preaching on THIS thread?
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\One final thought Steamer : if God is imaginary, why are you so vitriolic against Jesus in particular?
Maybe because a whole lot of nasty shit has been done in his name. Whether he existed or not is irrelevant to this fact. Also, he advocated some pretty nasty stuff himself, like eternal torture for not believing in him.
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Faith can move mountains and make people act wonderfully. It can also cause them to fly airplanes into buildings.
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Jesus is a force for love and good.
Tell that to the millions killed in his name over the past 2000 years.
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