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Old 07-09-2006, 01:21 PM   #201
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Haran, <edit> You've had your pathetic arguments blown out of the water at least a dozen times in this thread. At least retain some of your dignity by not flaming away like a child.
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You should actually read some of them, since you have no idea what they were about and decided to pile on like the others. <edit> So many atheists/agnostics are exactly like Christian fundamentalists and they don't even realize it. They can't even spot a charicature of themselves. Blind as bats, the lot.
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Well, I have to say I'm surprised because I don't often see the stupidity, ignorance, and bigotry in atheists/agnostics that I've seen from some in this thread.
I guess you just weren't being yourself around them.

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I'm tired of responding further.
They always are.

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As I'm sure you'd say of me, I'll leave you all to your subjective delusions.
You mean like believing in a non-existent, supernatural being that is supposedly all powerful but cannot even keep it's revelation to the world (the Bible) halfway coherent so it doesn't constantly contradict itself?
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Old 07-09-2006, 01:34 PM   #204
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I'm tired of responding further. My comments will once again be taken out of context (which I also see ALOT by atheists) and I'll be piled upon by many more irrational atheists/agnostics and that will be that. As I'm sure you'd say of me, I'll leave you all to your subjective delusions.
Why can't you tell the truth? I most certainly did not take anything at all out of context regarding your arguments about same-sex marriage in the thread about homosexuality and the Epsicopal church. You falsely said, without offering any evidence at all, that same-sex marriage would destroy the institution of marriage. I demolished your arguments with a lot of documented research, and you coveniently left town. I did not take your comments about morality out of context. You said that skeptics have no right to question Christian morality. Now please us how anyone has taken what you said out of context. You become evasive so you won't have to back up your arguments. Why are you wasting your time with rhetoric and spamming. Do you believe that you can influence anyone by avoiding discussing the issue. Since you don't want to reply to arguments by skeptics, do you intend from now on to just post rhetoric and spamming? If so, before long, no one will reply to your posts.
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Old 07-09-2006, 01:56 PM   #205
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Again, for those who didn't read....I was attacked in the BC&H forum simply for innocently sharing my Christian beliefs on a topic and not pushing them on anyone. I was immediately hounded and "dog-piled" by militant atheists with a myriad of totally off-topic posts who believe that because they can point out perceived errors in the text that is somehow going to convert me. Thinking from an atheistic/agnostic viewpoint, I see nothing more valuable and everything just as subjective. This thread was an attempt to teach them a lesson. But fools will be fools.
Lessee...a little illustration here:

Finger not in light socket = safe environment for finger and body attached to it

Finger in light socket = hostile environment for finger and body attached to it

Incongruency = "I can't figure for the life of me why when I stuck my finger in that light socket, it shocked me! It should not have done that! I SHOULD BE ABLE TO STICK MY FINGER IN THERE ANYTIME I PLEASE WITHOUT GETTING SHOCKED!"

Parallel incongruency = "I should be able to post my Christian world view/opinion on a website primarily populated by atheists and agnostics and not expect any friction or heat whatsoever!"

Fools will be fools, indeed.

Lose the martyr complex, it'll do wonders for your psyche.
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Johnny, you sure are fond of the word "evasive". Do you have a bigger vocabulary?

By the way, the word applies to you as well considering you never really responded to my own points about homosexuality in that thread except to ignore or dismiss them. So, don't act like you're some know-it-all, I've got all the answers because you aren't and you don't. You are immoral for not wanting science to help in finding the causes of homosexuality so that they can live a more normal life in the society from which you borrow your values that doesn't accept homosexuality. Going against the social grain are we? You are quite the immoral person, Johnny.

As an engineer, I know statics can be made to say anything one wishes. What you have to get at is the control group and study that. I just have little faith in statics although I see you do. Aside from that, why in the world would I trust the sources of your statistics? I'll tell you...I wouldn't trust much from someone with the stated goal of "destroying Christianity". Kind strange, I know, but I wouldn't. You want to destroy my faith and yet you want me to accept something I don't want to accept. What bigotry...what irrationality...what ignorace...
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"I should be able to post my Christian world view/opinion on a website primarily populated by atheists and agnostics and not expect any friction or heat whatsoever!"
And of course I never said that. I post here because I like to. I point out inconsistencies and I am very rude to those who are rude to me and whose stated goal is to "destroy" my faith.

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Fools will be fools, indeed.
Tell me about it. It is pretty foolish to put words in someone else's mouth.

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Lose the martyr complex, it'll do wonders for your psyche.
It does wonders for my psyche to tear into the irrational beliefs of those who want to "destroy" Christianity. If you want to have nice, friendly, discussion (without the desire and agenda of "destroying" Christianity), then I can do that too. Few, at least in this thread, seem capable.
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By the way, the word applies to you as well considering you never really responded to my own points about homosexuality in that thread except to ignore or dismiss them.
Can you point out an example?

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You are immoral for not wanting science to help in finding the causes of homosexuality so that they can live a more normal life in the society from which you borrow your values that doesn't accept homosexuality.
Says the person who found out that science really wasn't on his side, nor wer statistics...

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I just have little faith in statics although I see you do
Earlier you said we quote statistics that we do not understand! Tell us how we do not understand the statistics that say Christians are the overwhelming majority of criminals in prison!

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What bigotry...what irrationality...what ignorace...
I don't know what to say. Looking over this whole thread, I have come to one conclusion: <edit>.
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Old 07-09-2006, 02:15 PM   #209
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I'm tired of responding further. My comments will once again be taken out of context (which I also see ALOT by atheists) and I'll be piled upon by many more irrational atheists/agnostics and that will be that. As I'm sure you'd say of me, I'll leave you all to your subjective delusions.
For some reason, I think Haran was planning on saying this from the very beginning. He entitles his thread "Atheist Dog-Pile", antagonizes atheists by calling them irrational from the very get-go, and continually likens atheists to borg-like zombies. Can anyone say "persecution complex"?

Actually, this reminds me of quite a few Christians. It almost seems as if some Christians ENJOY being perscuted for their beliefs. Maybe it makes them feel all "righteous" and like Jesus. I really don't know, but this seems somewhat common among Christians who actively debate atheists (from my experience).
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Thread Locked. Way too inflammatory.

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ETA: After reviewing the thread, I agree with the OP. It belongs in ~~Elsewhere~~. Such a shame. there was actually some substance here early on.
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