MarkA

Sorry?

Metamorphosis the most basic human right? Do you mean Ovid or the Stones?

Your OT quote is hardly an insight into anything by the writer. It could simply mean (without knowing the context it is only speculation on my part) if only the old are dreaming of posibilities then the society is in big trouble.

Cege

Although I've heard numerous explanations for how Jesus was dead for 3 days and 3 nights when he died on a Friday afternoon and was resurrected by early Sunday morning, none of them have ever been convincing.

The easiest to understand, but still impossible to accept, is that someone didn't really mean an actual 3 days and 3 nights.

Chili

Never read Ovid and never heard of Stones but metmorphosis must have meaning of its own.No, the problem is that old men still dream which is not possible with only one mind. By inference it means that few old men did dream at that time . . . or at least to place a verdict that it is wrong to [still] dream at old age.

Remember how Jesus was said that he 'was' 46 and would raise that temple in 3 days? (John 2:18-).

Chili

Sunday as the 7th day of the week is when evening does not follow the day (from Gen.1 gaining assent in Gen.2:1 as the everlasting day that prevailed in holiness; see also on European calendars). This then is why Sunday is to be counted for 2 days in itself in that count-down for 3 days. To keep in mind here is that the light of common day is an illusion in the everlasting light.

jgreen44

This knowledge is, theoretically, innate. It is information shared by all people in the realm of archetypes. As such the concepts under discussion, such as Eros and Logos, will crop up again and again in all mythologies.

jgreen44

We become again like unto little children (the only sort of people who will ever inherit the kingdom of heaven).

Developmentally, Eden is the womb and eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil simply represents each person's gradual or sudden fall into (awareness of) duality. We then spend the first half of our lives identifying with the world and its dualistic concerns before, like the prodigal son, devoting the rest of our lives to getting back to where we once belonged.

jgreen44

I think he means individuation.

jgreen44

"The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light." Matt.6:22-23

Chili

Except that we look with our eye but see with our mind.

Chili

I see your theory, but mine is different.

We come as little children only because we are exhausted in our left brain and are led back to Beth-le-hem by the woman who has played us out as egocentric individuals so that later a virgin could 'reel us in' and as much as drag us to the state of mind we were at birth before this now gentle virgin could be our personal (sic) guide to Beth-le-hem, who there gives birth to the little child within (and I skipped the Annunciation here to keep it simple but that is required to to appease the deep seated human urge to abandon the child once born).

There is no such thing as good and evil in Eden. Good and bad, yes, but not good and evil, and yes, we will be like little chidlren but must have 12 ousia's on the run ("shepherds out of control") to arrive in Bethlehem and with as much as even one shepherd short we will not have a full cast of characters and will be an apostle short to support our mansion in the sky.

And no, we are effectively singular by perception in our fallen nature until we are reborn (involutional period), and become consciously aware of our dual nature after we are reborn (evolutional period) of which the first 40 months are needed to get 'crucified' and after that heaven on earth only prevails = no more dual nature.

And no, the prodigal son is involution only, but is depicted during the heavy Advent period in his life.

I have a little problem in your "be like little children" because little children are known to be good actors and so we must be "beyond theology" for this state of mind.