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Old 12-24-2009, 08:12 PM   #71
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You think Jesus, the offspring of the Holy Ghost, made one of the pots?

I don't think carpenters made pots.

Oh, I forgot, look for the pot with the wine residue, the one from the wedding where he turned water into wine.
You mean this one?



Archaeologist says she's found site of Jesus' first miracle: More conclusive proof needed, others say
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American archaeologists excavating a rival site several miles to the north have also found pieces of stone jars from the time of Jesus, and believe they have found biblical Cana.
Wow! Two places with stone jars! Holeee Shit, someone tell the world Jesus may have done the same water to wine trick in homes all across this vicinity.

I bet there is a pile of fish bones somewhere waiting to be uncovered that will establish the historicity of the feeding of the 5000.

Some one needs to start combing the bottom of the lakes for those swine bones that might still have traces of demon DNA in them.

I can hardly wait for the discovery of a sword that finally proves Jesus was arrested and someone's ear was severed in the garden just like the gospel says.

There is a vast wealth of undiscovered confirmation of Jesus' miracles out there just waiting for someone to claim them. Dig faster!
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From my link in post #4 about this current Nazareth discovery.

"The excavator, Yardenna Alexandre...."



From Arnoldo's link in post#66
"The shards were found during a salvage dig in modern-day Cana, between Nazareth and Capernaum. Israeli archaeologist Yardena Alexander believes the Arab town was built near the ancient village.......

Another site also linked to Cana
However, American archaeologists excavating a rival site several miles to the north have also found pieces of stone jars from the time of Jesus, and believe they have found biblical Cana:"

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Christmas Decoded? What New Discoveries in Nazareth Tell Us About Jesus by Bruce Feiler, author of Walking the Bible (or via: amazon.co.uk), Abraham (or via: amazon.co.uk), and America's Prophet (or via: amazon.co.uk)

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So what does this new discovery tell us about Jesus?

The answer is not very much. We still have no evidence that Jesus was ever in Nazareth or in Bethlehem, the two towns featured in the Christmas story. In fact, one of Alexandre's statements is classic archaeological hyperbole fed to a gullible press: "It was likely Jesus and his childhood friends would have known the house." Oh, really? Based on what?
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The Bible is grounded in the history and landscape of the Ancient Near East. The Bible is full of details of time and place that would have resonated deeply to people at the time, but are often lost on us today.
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Christmas Decoded? What New Discoveries in Nazareth Tell Us About Jesus by Bruce Feiler, author of Walking the Bible (or via: amazon.co.uk), Abraham (or via: amazon.co.uk), and America's Prophet (or via: amazon.co.uk)

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So what does this new discovery tell us about Jesus?

The answer is not very much. We still have no evidence that Jesus was ever in Nazareth or in Bethlehem, the two towns featured in the Christmas story. In fact, one of Alexandre's statements is classic archaeological hyperbole fed to a gullible press: "It was likely Jesus and his childhood friends would have known the house." Oh, really? Based on what?
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The Bible is grounded in the history and landscape of the Ancient Near East. The Bible is full of details of time and place that would have resonated deeply to people at the time, but are often lost on us today.
Weird that he would claim that there is "no evidence that Jesus was ever in Nazareth or in Bethlehem." Christian authors would have reason to lie about Bethlehem, but not about Nazareth, an insignificant backwoods town that hardly anybody ever heard about (and embarrassing if they did).
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Christian authors must have had good reason to lie about everything, or they were just pathological.
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Weird that he would claim that there is "no evidence that Jesus was ever in Nazareth or in Bethlehem." Christian authors would have reason to lie about Bethlehem, but not about Nazareth, an insignificant backwoods town that hardly anybody ever heard about (and embarrassing if they did).
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When you reduce the issue to such stupidity it's no wonder that you fall over your own feet. What on earth makes you use the word "lie" in this statement? It's a guaranteed sign of you talking through your hat.

And you will never learn a damn thing about Nazareth, will you? ...when you plead ignorance like this. Now your approach is just so embarrassing, isn't it?

Answer me this: why is there no support between the gospels about the usage of Nazareth? I mean why are there no parallels whatsoever between the gospels when the name is used? Why are the earliest references not to Nazareth but to Nazara (Mt 4:13, Lk 4:16)?? You can of course derive Nazara from "Nazarene" by simply removing the suffix which appears to be a gentilic. So you can explain Nazara, but not Nazareth. Well then, where's Nazara? Fucked if I know, but there is a Nazareth. Oh, then that must be the place. Yeah, guess so.


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Christian authors must have had good reason to lie about everything, or they were just pathological.

It is my observation that my contemporary Christian acquaintances don't need to 'have a good reason to lie about everything', maintaining their form of religion, in their eyes, justifies the fabrication of any crock and bull 'testimony' or 'witnessing' that they can dream up and convince themselves of, to 'win souls' for JC & Co.

There is more horseshit to be found on the shelves of any Christian bookstore, than was ever shoveled out of Solomon's forty thousand horse stalls.
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Christian authors must have had good reason to lie about everything, or they were just pathological.

It is my observation that my contemporary Christian acquaintances don't need to 'have a good reason to lie about everything', maintaining their form of religion, in their eyes, justifies the fabrication of any crock and bull 'testimony' or 'witnessing' that they can dream up and convince themselves of, to 'win' souls for JC & Co.
The error lies in the misunderstanding that the original christian author's weren't writing about a literal Jesus but a symbolic jesus. From a MJ perspective the "christian" authors were portraying the destruction and revival of Israel allegorically in the person of Jesus. Unfortunately, many misunderstood the gnostics message and began to take the gospels literally sometime in the late second century. The rest is history :constern01:
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You have The Gospels and The Acts.
Which passages were written by 'the original (gnostic) christian authors', and which were simply invented and added by the 'many' of the late second century that misunderstood the message?
As they now sit, ALL of the NT Books testify to events, situations, and conversations that never in reality took place, in other words, to 'late second century' lies and fabrications.

There is more horseshit to be found on the shelves of any Christian bookstore, than was ever shoveled out of Solomon's forty thousand horse stalls.
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