Constant Mews

I can add another - of concern to me but irrelevant to most of the posters: I am interested in why Dave persists in activity which is demonstrably harmful to his cause.

Consider: he has demonstrated that he cannot be trusted - no one takes anything he says seriously. Under the circumstances, any 'science' papers he tries to 'draw our attention to' will be rejected automatically because they are offered by Dave.

Even someone witnessing recognizes the futility of witnessing when it has been shown that they will do no good. And Dave doesn't even claim to be witnessing - though that appears to be psychologically what his intent is.

Why does he persist in this stubborn, counter-productive behavior? He knows that no one trusts him; that no one listens to him. Why does he do it? Why would someone with a family and a business to attend to commit hours and hours of unproductive time that hurt his own intentions?

Mike PSS

Dave,
I can hear you chuckling behind your screen as you wind-up people like deadman and ericmurphy with this tripe.

On the flip-side, every model put forward or proposed by creationists to explain a young earth using math and science has been knocked down as soon as the details are examined. R.H.Brown's model of C14 levels is false. RATE's model of AND is false. Walt Brown's hydroplate theory is false. Henry Morris's theories about the Grand Canyon are false. WA Dembski's theories about information are false.

And you've been witness to the deconstruction of all these items since you were the one to post these creationist theories to support your views in the first place.

What is glaringly obvious to me is your ignorance with the dating methods like Lake Varves. This ignorance was revealed with C14 dating and dendrochronology and alleles and genetics and Portuguese and... and... and...

Go find the definition of an Autodidact and you'll find out real quick that you don't fit that definition.

deadman_932

Well, I don't know that I'm *really* wound up, Mike, but eh.
I do consider that last bit that I emphasized to be a personal insult , since I am one of the people that voted. I reject this notion that Dave can read my mind and make such an insulting, small-minded claim about me.

Jayco

Jeez, when you put it like that. What's your theory?

All right, well I can respect that.

I can't speak for everyone, but reading AFDave doesn't stroke my ego; it makes me concerned for him.

Mike PSS

deadman,
p.s. That comment wasn't really for or about you.

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Constant Mews

I too am concerned for him. Both as a Christian - who is sad to see someone ignore and malign the Word of God - and as a professional - who sees a person with innumerable mental problems.

My theory? Dave is just witnessing - a fairly common Christian practice that involves preaching to the heathen. The more scorn they heap on him, the better he feels, since in his mind, simply putting the word of God before the heathen permits God to work a conversion.

There are many problems with this: witnessing attracts a very disturbed mind that delights in suffering and abuse - a combination of the masochist ("please hurt me some more, it feels good") and the sadist ("you stinking bastards will rot in hell because you didn't listen to me! HA, HA!"). It appeals to people like Dave; those who are fundamentally nobodys and recognize that they are unimportant. Witnessing makes them feel somehow important and 'better' than others.

Of course, most Witnesses offer the word of God - Dave offers lousy science. It's the missing piece of the puzzle for me.

deadman_932

Mike: I know, but I was making a point to the mods :wave:

Dave has been getting away with this "I'm not really insulting you" shit far too long..he may as well have said: " The only reason you voted against me was because you hate Jebus and the Bible, too."

Constant Mews

But that's what he DID say.

Sven

Yup. A consensus arrived at by devout Christians, creationists to be more specific. A point which you (and every other creationist) continue to ignore.

Yup, fraud and conspiracy. That's all what you have left.

mung bean

Deadman has a point. Not just the one on top of 'is nut either.

Dave, that claim you made was idiotic. What you fail to comprehend is that we would be delighted to learn we were wrong. It's always fascinating to learn new stuff and the possibility of getting greater insight into the true state of things would interest everybody here. Well, most of them anyway. I can think of some exceptions.
You're totally full of shit, mate. We didn't vote against you because we wanted you to be wrong. We voted against you because as far as we can tell your position makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.