Johnny Skeptic

Please give us some examples of tangible benefits that you have received from God that were not randomly distributed.

Your reply did not have anything to do with what I said.

Do you intend to reply to my post #402? I asked you that question in one of my previous posts, but you did not answer my question. Why not? If necessary, I do not mind posting my post #402 again.

Ignostic Morgan

:wave: But you are making our point about free-will: why does God let such as Pol Pot kill miliions with his use of free will , thereby destroying theirs. Soul -making is ridiculous as that harms millions and episemic distance[John Hick's arguments' is just not right in that no god has the right to have us worship it and so no right to test us for that purpose and the other one.See my definitive refuatation of the free will argument. So,:banghead: :huh: :wave:

rhutchin

Under free will, some people will be stronger than others and will get their way at the expense of others. Why is that such a big deal?

rhutchin

I will let you split your post into new threads covering the many topics you touch upon and start discussions that others can respond to. Your statements tend to be disjointed and easily drift off target. Let's get you to organize your arguments to encourage productive discussions.

aa5874

Not God, rhutchin, Jesus Christ. 'No man cometh unto the Father except by me'.

In any event, some believers in God do not agree with you. These believers claim your doctrine is of the Devil. Why do believers in Gods hate each other so?

Johnny Skeptic

But what happens to people who die when they are 25 who would have become Christians if they had lived longer?

Ok, let's stay on topic. 2 Peter 3:9 says that God is not willing that any should perish. You say that God is willing that some will perish based upon your interpretation of some other Scriptures, although if you have children you would not be willing that any of them not hear the Gospel message. Aside from the reasonable possibility that the Bible might contain contradictions, 2 Peter 3:9 possibly being one of them, I agree with with you that God is willing that some will perish. That is obvious even if this issue was never discussed in the Bible. Decent people are not able to love a God who is willing that some will perish. God delibetately withholds information from some people that would convince them to become Christians if they were aware of the information. No man can fairly be held accountable for refusing to accept information that he would accept if he was aware of it.

I assume that your main purpose for making posts at the IIDB is to try to convince people to become Christians. If that is correct, you most certainly will not convince anyone to become a Christian by telling them that God is willing that some will perish. You also will never convince anyone to become a Christian by telling them that the Bible opposes homosexuality. What you need to do is to start a new thread and tell people why they should become Christians. I predict that you do not have enough confidence in your arguments to do that.

Doug Shaver

The quintessential drop-dead deadline, eh?

JPD

Oh no! Quelle supris! Is that yet another layer of risk icing we see being applied to the Pascal cake?

This is an interesting possibility (in a kind of not very interesting at all way). The trick is to be able to calculate when that is and then get everything ready. Is there a special kit one can buy - cushions, tumblers, perhaps a pig or a dwarf? Or is it the case, as I have suspected all along, that the Bible is the only facility we require along with several thousand bickering Christian sects? All of them, and every other religion on earth telling the truth naturally with often compelling argumentation. Such as we have seen here.

Nonethless, here is a taste of what can be expected:

Report: 92 Percent Of Souls In Hell There On Drug Charges

Johnny Skeptic

I did not say "things". I said "tangible benefits". Please give us some examples of tangible benefits that you have received from God that were not randomly distributed. I assume that God does not pay any more attention to the tangible needs of humans than he does to the tangible needs of animals. While many animals have plenty to eat, many Christians have starved to death because God deliberately refused to provide them with food. God allowed one million people to die during the Irish Potato Famine alone, most of whom were Christians. Many animals never become seriously ill. Many animals live long lives. Macaws typically live for 70 years.

Since you believe that God exists, will you please ask him to stop creating hurricanes and killing people and innocent animals with them? Will you also please ask him to stop discriminating against amputees?

If you don't mind, please reply to my post #416. You can't claim that that post is off topic. You have told me that I sometimes get off topic, which I sometimes do, but over the last year, you have gotten off topic many times in a number of threads. Would you like some examples?

rhutchin

Would you want it any other way?