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Old 01-11-2013, 11:10 AM   #111
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Do you not read or listen to anything I say? I have steadfastly refused to give out personal information because, quite frankly, the ad hominem crap I have gotten over the years from people like you is nothing short of disturbing, and I will not give any of you any opportunity to do mischief.

I have pointed out more than once here that Jeffrey Gibson, several years ago, looking for some baseball bat to use against Richard Carrier when he could not himself discredit Carrier's opinion of certain Greek passages, took the liberty of contacting one of Carrier's old professors at Columbia. When that professor refused to bite at Gibson's leading questions about Greek incompetency, Gibson twisted something the professor said--or rather, did not say--to make it out that he had a poor opinion of Carrier's proficiency, and broadcast that to the IIDB (predecessor of FRDB). Gibson was finally exposed, but never apologized.

As long as there are shitheads like him and Looney Rooney (a certifiable lunatic) and "honest" Gakusei Don around, I keep my personal info close to my chest. Besides, these days hackers can get into just about anything, and one piece of personal info can lead to another. Call it paranoia, if you wish, but the amount of rabid antagonism and vitriolic manure I have had thrown at me is enough to fuel a thousand paranoiacs.

Instead of obsessing over personal information or the legitimacy of my credentials, why not actually address my arguments and rebut them? Other than with your fallacious appeal to authority, that is.

And how the hell is Geomatics and Hydrographic Science supposed to qualify you to pontificate on a subject you clearly know nothing about? At least my B.A. in History and Classical Languages has direct relevance. No wonder your postings are mind-numbingly repetitive with the same old mantra.

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Very well, Earl. Any time you or anyone else claims that you have a relevant degree, I will be sure to remind the forum that the origin of the degree is a secret.
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Very well, Earl. Any time you or anyone else claims that you have a relevant degree, I will be sure to remind the forum that the origin of the degree is a secret.
Does it matter since he is not a scholar/historian?


I say let his work in said particular field stand by its own merits.
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Very well, Earl. Any time you or anyone else claims that you have a relevant degree, I will be sure to remind the forum that the origin of the degree is a secret.
Does it matter since he is not a scholar/historian?


I say let his work in said particular field stand by its own merits.
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why should Acharya S's work be protected from scrutiny? That is essentially what you are saying!
I learned some interesting information about the actual evolution of the Indo-European language family from Zwaarddijk/Miekko/Sierios. Regrettably, this man of multiple pseudonyms has an overly grand sense of the withering impact of his linguistic research, drawing continual general conclusions from it that are wholly unjustified, especially in regard to the Christ Myth Theory. I am nonplussed by his recent comment about ad hominem smears, and can only say that to respond here would continue his derailing of this thread.

Earl Doherty, in my observation of his conduct, has generously welcomed reasoned critique of his work, as has Acharya S of hers. But as Earl has just pointed out, much of the criticism is quite mad. The Christ Myth Theory sticks its oar into some deep cultural currents, and the surface swirls do not always reveal what is occurring below.

Most people who discuss these topics have some sort of chips on their shoulder about religion, and there are some big topics which seem to fall stillborn from the press, as Hume put it. Gaining more clarity about the psychology and social topology of religious analysis could help to dissolve some of the stumbling blocks.
You would do good to read what I actually am writing, as I have documented several non-linguistic fabrications repeated in Acharya's The Christ Conspiracy.
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Very well, Earl. Any time you or anyone else claims that you have a relevant degree, I will be sure to remind the forum that the origin of the degree is a secret.
You have got some chutzpah, Abe. This from a guy who has kept his identity secret for as long as he's been here. Half the posters on this forum keep their identities secret. And yet you taunt me for not revealing a personal bit of information. You want me to go out on a limb while you hide behind the tree. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you the University I got my degree from if you publicly reveal your name, and Gakusei Don reveals his, and the name of the latest Acharyaphobe (Mr. "Z"), and--what the hell--I always wanted to know who spin is. If all you guys will join me out on the limb, I'll be happy to give you my old Alma Mater. Hell, I'll even scan in a report on one of my years there which shows me with an overall A+ mark. (It was a B.A. "With Distinction".)

Otherwise, put a sock in it!

And if you've judged my arguments, it must mean that you are familiar with them (not my conclusions, my arguments!), and if you've come to a judgment, it must be because you have your own substantive rebuttals for those arguments. So why not share them with us? Why not challenge me on those arguments instead of parrotting your empty appeals to authority and your personal attacks on my integrity?

And if you ever intimate that I am a liar again, I'll petition the mods to have you ejected from this board. And while I have a right to defend myself on this free-wheeling internet, that's my last word on this subject.

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Very well, Earl. Any time you or anyone else claims that you have a relevant degree, I will be sure to remind the forum that the origin of the degree is a secret.
You have got some chutzpah, Abe. This from a guy who has kept his identity secret for as long as he's been here. Half the posters on this forum keep their identities secret. And yet you taunt me for not revealing a personal bit of information. You want me to go out on a limb while you hide behind the tree. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you the University I got my degree from if you publicly reveal your name, and Gakusei Don reveals his, and the name of the latest Acharyaphobe (Mr. "Z"), and--what the hell--I always wanted to know who spin is. If all you guys will join me out on the limb, I'll be happy to give you my old Alma Mater. Hell, I'll even scan in a report on one of my years there which shows me with an overall A+ mark. (It was a B.A. "With Distinction".)

Otherwise, put a sock in it!

And if you've judged my arguments, it must mean that you are familiar with them (not my conclusions, my arguments!), and if you've come to a judgment, it must be because you have your own substantive rebuttals for those arguments. So why not share them with us? Why not challenge me on those arguments instead of parrotting your empty appeals to authority and your personal attacks on my integrity?

And if you ever intimate that I am a liar again, I'll petition the mods to have you ejected from this board. And while I have a right to defend myself on this free-wheeling internet, that's my last word on this subject.

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You have got some chutzpah, Abe. This from a guy who has kept his identity secret for as long as he's been here. Half the posters on this forum keep their identities secret. And yet you taunt me for not revealing a personal bit of information. You want me to go out on a limb while you hide behind the tree. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you the University I got my degree from if you publicly reveal your name, and Gakusei Don reveals his, and the name of the latest Acharyaphobe (Mr. "Z"), and--what the hell--I always wanted to know who spin is. If all you guys will join me out on the limb, I'll be happy to give you my old Alma Mater. Hell, I'll even scan in a report on one of my years there which shows me with an overall A+ mark. (It was a B.A. "With Distinction".)

Otherwise, put a sock in it!

And if you've judged my arguments, it must mean that you are familiar with them (not my conclusions, my arguments!), and if you've come to a judgment, it must be because you have your own substantive rebuttals for those arguments. So why not share them with us? Why not challenge me on those arguments instead of parrotting your empty appeals to authority and your personal attacks on my integrity?

And if you ever intimate that I am a liar again, I'll petition the mods to have you ejected from this board. And while I have a right to defend myself on this free-wheeling internet, that's my last word on this subject.

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Abe (whoever you are), I owe you nothing! If you choose not to believe me, that's your business.

And since you've already said that my degree wouldn't affect you anyway, but you judge by my arguments, why not address those arguments?

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No Abe, everyone would NOT be happy with such a process.
No one else here is expected or pressured to use Toto as an intermediary to gather information to defend their integrity, and it is ungentlemanly of you to even suggest that Earl Doherty should be singled out for such to defend his character.
Earl freely gives his name. He is a known and published author. Engage the content of his arguments, instead of seeking for ways to besmirch his integrity.
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I see that Looney Rooney is currently logged into this thread. What is it, Roo, looking for your latest 'quote' that you can twist and take out of context and post on Amazon like the weasel that you've shown yourself to be? I think I need a vacation from you vipers. But I'll leave you with this parting note. For all your fanaticism, sales of my books have actually gone up. Thanks for contributing to the very modest return I've gotten for three decades of very dedicated work.

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