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Old 10-03-2008, 02:10 PM   #11
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On page 192 of the Greek New Testament by Constantin von Tischendorf I find the following statement attributed to Origen, commenting on Matthew 27.9:

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It is not found anywhere among those things which are written in his books, whether those which are read in the churches or those which are referred to among the Jews, that Jeremiah prophesied this. If, then, anyone can know [where], let him show where it is written. I suspect either that it is an error of the scripture, and Jeremiah was put down for Zechariah, or that there is some secret scripture of Jeremiah in which it is written. There is, however, such a text according to the prophet Zechariah. If, then, someone in saying these things manages to offend himself, let him see whether this is prophesied anywhere in the secrets of Jeremiah, knowing that even the apostle offers certain secret scriptures, just as he says somewhere: That which the eye has not seen nor the ear heard. For this is found placed in no regular book except in the secrets of Elijah the prophet. Likewise that which says: Just as Jamnes and Mambres resisted Moses, is not found in the public scriptures but in a secret book which is entitled the book of Jamnes and Mambres. Whence some dared to reject the ep{istle} to Tim{othy}, as if it had inside it the text of some secret book, but they could not do so. Whether anyone has refuted the first ep{istle} to the Cor{inthians} as adulterated on this account has never reached my ears.
All these references to secret books of all types -- from Origen! -- seem to add further support to the Secret Mark fragments. And to vindicate Morton Smith.

I bolded these refs above. Origen and Clement of Alexandria are, of course, closely linked.

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