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On the talk page for Julian, currently "Julian the Apostate", there is an attempt to change the article name to the emperor's real name, "Flavius Claudius Julianus". I was hoping that some people from here might participate in the decision. All you have to do is go to the talk page and add your choice, either "oppose" or "support", by editing the section.

There have been several attempts to change the name of the article.


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mountainman

Thanks spin, have added a comment to the survey.

JoeWallack

JW:
Only for you Spin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ju...9_.28part_2.29



Joseph

http://www.errancywiki.com/index.php/Main_Page

Clivedurdle

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/ju...ns_0_intro.htm

Just wondering - do we have a very biased set of references about xianity from these centuries?

figuer

That makes no sense: 1. Why would English Wikipedia have the entry using the Latin name? 2. Would anyone actually search for "Flavius Claudius Julianus"? If the requested name change was to "Roman Emperor Julian", perhaps, but the present request is absurd.

jon-eli

Because it is not a pejorative.

They don't have to; Wiki would redirect "Julian the Apostate" to "Flavius Claudius Julianus."

mountainman

Totally and demonstratively "biased and ill-informed".
Take for example the opening claim.

This is totally wrong. Epictetus never mentions anything to do with "galilaeans" as "christians" but follows the useage of Josephus who does not refer to christians at all, but in fact refers to the galilaeans as the lawless tribes of jewish rebels and gangsters who hang out in the "bad lands" and refused to pay ribute to those nice Roman overlords. Nothing whatseoever to do with "christainity" or "christians".

Wilmer Cave WRIGHT, PH.D, is wrong.

Julian invented the term "Galilaeans" in the fourth century so that he could legally change the name of the "christains" to something else. His use of the term is the precedent in antiquity. IMO it was meant to represent his conception of "the new and strange religion" [Eusebius] and the "Plain and simple religion of the christians" [Ammianus] as lawless tribes of jewish (LXX carrying) rebels and gangsters who hang out in the "basilicas" and refused to pay tribute to those nice Greek overlords of philosophy, religion, mathematics, geometry, poetry and their conceptions of "divinity", and the entire set of heavily Hellenistic traditions which the Roman empire had assumed -- and preserved -- until Constantine.

mountainman

BULLBURNER is better nickname than APOSTATE

spin

Yeah, thanks for the effort, Joe. I'm sure you love the process of dealing with Wiki apologists. As much as me.


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spin

What is the name of the Wiki article for Geta??


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