Al Kafirun

:notworthy And that was the only thing he was right about.

capnkirk

Also, never mind that Gracq would have to have had access to and expertise in the Greek they were written in for any "style" continuities to carry much weight.

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Toto

The discussion about Nazareth variations has been split here:

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=84435

LP675

CX said “Evidence that demands a verdict by Josh McDowell� was an argument he had seen (i.e. read). He asserted it was ‘predicated on the assumption that people who read it are complete morons’.
You then stated:
Aren’t you in fact saying CX is a moron?

CX

Not to be nitpicky, but the fact that mcdowell predicated his arguments on the presumption that those who would read them are morons is not equivalent to saying that everyone who reads McDowell is a moron. The subtext is that people who read McDowell and are convinced by his arguments are morons. I suspect Al's comment was an affirmation of the subtext of my statements. Anyway it was a joke.

LP675

Warning! This post is really not worth reading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No, of course not. But to affirm the truth of the presupposition that all who read Mcdowell’s book are morons is (for all current intents and purposes) equivalent to saying everyone who reads his book is a moron.

It is of course me being nitpicky, and I realize he was trying to say those convinced by McDowell’s book are morons, and he was attempting to agree with you.

However your actual statements at face value contain no nuance or implication that the presupposition McDowell manifests is related to conviction as to the veracity of his claims.

You could have (more properly) been taken to be insinuating the presupposition of McDowell was FALSE, especially in light of the foregoing discussion which offered other (presumably false) examples of presuppositions used by apologists.

It just amused me that in attempting to affirm you, he ended up implying you were a moron without realizing it.

CX

Unless of course I am a moron, which is not outside the realm of possibility, and the implication was intentional.