Rhaedas

That same fact hasn't helped in their rapture delusions.

Let us know if some actual facts from him get posted. Is it a common rule that the way to weed out the conspiracy/pseudoscience people is to look at the ratio of data vs. meaningless drivel? Hell, if I had some hard facts on an object coming this way, I'd be posting at various boards, here included, have a website with the numbers, etc, and want someone to actually critique it. The line about having the data, but not wanting to give out too much for fear of letting on how much he knows, just reeks of delusion and/or hoax.

Good point...many new objects are discovered through amateurs, and only verified through the larger observatories (the NEAT program does a good job though, despite the minor funding and off-time limitations).

Another sign of hoaxing...he's discussing comets, not NEOs. An incoming comet from the Oort cloud would be the hardest to detect, since it would show little motion from our perspective. The chances of that happening is also obviously much less. However, he's talking multiple comets with the same path, and yet out of these objects with a shared path, two he has direct target areas, and one's a black horse.

That's what angers me...there's good points and science in this, but he's twisted it around to suit whatever his agenda is (NASA/authority attacks, conspiracy, or sheer panic maker). Too much "cry wolf" things like this, and the real scientists are going to continue to have problems with funding and education of the issue, and then later we may pay the price with a real "wolf".
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Loren Pechtel

One simple hole to punch: SDI has nothing to do with shooting down inbound rocks or comets.

1) All proposed interceptors are not capable of engaging targets beyond a few thousand miles. If you're up against a bad rock and the range is only a few thousand miles the only reason to shoot is if the hit is going to be a *VERY* glancing hit. Otherwise the results are either neutral (you nudge it a bit) or bad (you break it up.)

2) Every SDI thing I've seen suggested is either a kinetic kill or an energy beam. While either would kill a warhead no problem (the problems with SDI do not relate to killing the warheads, but positive target identification.) neither would do anything to something big enough that we would be tracking it.


The only way to stop a rock is a rocket. Chemical fuel is out of the question, *FAR* more power is needed. If you have lots of time you might be able to land something on it that uses solar or nuclear power to accelerate bits of the target to produce thrust. Obviously this is very slow but if you intercept far out that's fine. If you've got a year, a deflection of only a few inches per second is enough.

If time is critical there's only one rocket with the hope of producing the needed thrust--orion. It also has the advantage that no landing is needed, so long as your warhead control is good enough it doesn't matter what the relative velocity is between the warhead and the rock. Put enough megatonnage in the right place and hope you're dealing with a solid and not a pile of rocks.

Jet Black

wasn't Hoagland related somehow to the www.zetatalk.com incident (perhaps the funniest ever doomsday prediction. perhaps someone should remind the RR folks of that. I recall one fundy christian being involved on another board I go to.

Rhaedas

Hey, Planet X is still coming...it's just been delayed or something. Honest, they've got all sort of pictures of stuff that clearly points to a large object heading towards Earth. Certainly there's some logical explanation as to why every year it seems looming and close, and isn't quite here yet.

Sure, no one with a telescope and lack of faith can see the same images, but that's part of the mysticism that holds the Planet X crowd together.

hawkwinddotcom

from http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=146005
oh thats right the world revolves around the USA,,sorry i forgot

Infidelettante

Try these two:

The Doomsday List
edit: this link doesn't work and I can't seem to fix it, sorry
The url is http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/s...dictions.shtml

It's the end of the world as we know it, again

SEF

Thanks. That first one doesn't seem to go back very far (I think there were 100 years or so of failed JW prophesies alone) and seemed to be abandoned. The second site looks more promising...

Porky Pine

I hope that none of those people ever run for public office. They really scare me. The only one I saw that had a ounce of reason left in his brain was GAB. The worst one is New Believer.

BTW, What the hell is up with all the woman in there? Is it a board rule that if you're a girl, you have to put up some sparkly animation of some anime - flavored cartoon girl in your sig? Those things make me want to puke!

Pheadrus

Thats the way it is on most boards.

nogods4me

I wonder if they've all bought bright new Nike sneakers and some Hunt's snack packs.