Sheshbazzar

But they are very skilled at the rhetoric that will arouse their not True™ christian members to go out and rob, murder, and start wars to increase the wealth and the power of the christian religion.

The hands of these True™ christians are every bit as bloody as those of the not True™ christians they cleverly employ to do their dirty work for them.

Someone born and raised within your own church does a dirty deed, and most convienetly he is not a True™ christian, so that True™ christians will never have to accept any responsiblity for the actions of their members.

No sotto, you can wash your bloody hands as often as you wish. But they will never come clean.

sotto voce

That's another media absurdity.

sotto voce

The media, yes. Skilled at lies and slander.

Christians are never heard.

It seems impossible to prove that the Bible is fantasy. Perhaps fantasy about history is the next best thing?

Sheshbazzar

You are a dishonest word twister sotto.

You know damn well that the context of my statement was that True™ christians are very skilled at the rhetoric.

I have nowhere at all in this entire thread made any reference to 'The media'.



As soon as the Bible talks about talking donkey's, levitating men, and graves opening and dead people popping up around Jerusalem, it becomes fantasy, not history.

sotto voce

That's the rhetoric. Now where's the proof?

Sheshbazzar

So you believe a donkey did carry on a conversation? That men back then levitated?
That the graves in Jerusalem opened and the dead zombies came out of their graves and went around haunting the living?

No one can prove such a stupid thing that never even happened, nor should they be expected to unless the person proposing the challenge is fucking insane.
You wish to present such claims to rational people, it is totally up to you to prove that the claims are rational, and that you have rational evidence that these things did happen.

Sounds like you need to lay off the bottle a bit, join AA, and perhaps your visions of flying pink elephants will go away.
If that doesn't work, go directly to the nearest Mental Health facility and have yourself committed.

sotto voce

Anyone who says that a donkey did not speak has to prove it. Anyone who does not prove it can be said to believe it possible.

Sheshbazzar

Horse shit.

Toto

I don't know what to do with this thread.

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Sheshbazzar

Its the old Prove a Negative Fallacy. sotto has invisible pink elephants inhabiting his closet and wants us to prove that they are not there. Guess they'll just have to remain there for poor 'ol blotto sotto.